Arika's new guidelines for posting TGM videos

Thread in 'Discussion' started by Sumez, 5 Nov 2018.

  1. So there's a lot of talk going on these days, in pretty much every community other than the actual Tetris community, about the recent drama with Arika threatening to file complaints against YouTube accounts with TGM videos that don't comply to some rules they just made up, and which as far as I can tell are only available in Japanese, if at all.

    So to all those of us who have TGM footage up there, aside from just removing the videos, what's the deal here? What can we realistically do to avoid losing our YouTube accounts by 2019?

    What I've been able to gather so far:

    - Video must be recorded from original hardware/PCB. So no emulation, no romhacks or similar.
    - Something about the #tgm_series tag??
    - Some specifics about legal stuff must be a part of the video's description. I have idea what, though.
    - As far as I can gather, a video can still be monetized as long as it complies to the rules, but non-monetized ones still have to comply anyway?

    Someone please help clearing this up. :)
     
  2. From what I can gather regarding the requirements (shown here), pictures/videos/ect should fulfill the following:

    • Video must be of official hardware and must be stated (Mihara says "... Please do not lie.")
    • I'm not 100% sure about the #TGM_Series tag, yet for safe measure, put it into the video/image and the description if you can.
    • In regards to the 'legal stuff', I'll pop that in the example below.
    • As far as I'm aware, all videos should adhere to the guidelines. Monetised or not.
    Example:
    Code:
    This video is taken of an image of the arcade board # tgm_series http: / /www.arika.co.jp/tgm_g.html
    
    TGM series are properties of Arika Co., Ltd.
    The videos are released by following the guidlines below.
    Publisher information: (Twitter account or web site, either is ok.) (<-Your info goes here.)
    http://www.arika.co.jp/tgm_g.html 
    Hopefully that covers 90% of the requirements. If someone else can chime in on the final piece(s), that'd be great!
     
    Last edited: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:37 PM
  3. Thanks for chiming in! I heard about the whole mess from the grapevine but it's nice to have an actual thread about it.

    I'll remove all my videos for now, none of them are super important and I already had copies of all of them locally so I could always reupload them or upload them somewhere else if needed. Though the urls will all be different, bleh.
     
  4. I'm going to have to make a correction here - the guidelines are not "new", they have been around since 2015. The clarification on usage for Western streaming sites such as YouTube and Twitch dates to 2017, but this doesn't appear to have been mentioned at all on this forum.

    Videos can indeed be monetised as long as an appropriate disclaimer stating so is given in the description.

    Someone should do a proper translation of the page, clarifying any points people are unsure of.
     
  5. nobody

    nobody Unregistered

    Are these rules even enforceable in a court of law? Emulation isn't illegal and Arika has no way to prove video posters really don't own the PCB. It sounds to me like this is just legal-sounding bullying by Mihara because he wants his games only played one way.
     
  6. Not sure. I've taken down some videos that may have been played on emulator despite being at a time when I owned the PCBs. Emulation is legal, and having a backup of software you own is legal. Looking into it I've seen claims that the backup is only to be used if the original is damaged/destroyed, but I can't find anything concrete supporting that claim. I'd figure that _concurrent_ use of both the original and backup would not be allowed, but beyond that I'm not sure. It feels reasonable that the backup could be used in place of the original (especially to protect the condition of the original, as such in the case of optical discs etc.), but this is a bit beyond my current level of understanding.
     
  7. We came from a resurgence in popularity in 2015 to this TGM oblivion today. It makes me legit a bit distressed typing that.

    I probably have no business saying that, considering I didn't spend a single dime on this series, and therefore are one of their primary targets (although I have no TGM video on Youtube, so I should be fine lol) but I feel very betrayed by Arika right now. The fact that everybody fears for this oncoming mass takedown, even though some of you are passionate enough about these games to actually buy the PCBs imported from Japan, makes me feel like they are just lifting a gargantuan middle finger to everyone who ever dedicated themselves to a game they themselves made, and I can't figure out how or why this has to happen, but this makes me want to never play another TGM game again.

    I hope we'll get to know more about this situation, and certainly I pray this is some horrendous legal bullshit Arika has no control over and tried to warn us before, but I also doubt that, considering they have a track record of doing similar things before.
    Also I hope all of you are doing fine. I imagine this is much tougher for you compared to me, I'm not that big into TGM anymore :p guess I'll stay on DTET and Quadra and NES Tetris for the future.
     
  8. I want to point out a particular paragraph I'd like clarified in the guideline, specifically, this:

    4)動画、静止画、スナップ等に問わず、パブリックに紹介している場合、
    ツイート、ブログ、動画投稿サイトページ内等に、
    テキストで(映像内でも可) #tgm_series というタグさえ入っていれば
    下記ガイドライン表記を順守している物とします。

    If I'm reading this correctly, the #tgm_series tag only needs to be included in the text OR the video, not necessarily both. The provided English is confusing on this point, so I would appreciate it if someone could verify my interpretation.
     
  9. Due to outdated copyright laws, yes. Footage of Arika's games does technically belong to Arika. Whether you made it or not. This accounts for all games that have copyright however most don't choose to pursue those who upload their games' content online as for them it's basically free advertising. Unless you have some form of contract stating you are allowed to post videos of Arika's games or your videos fall under fair-use doctrine, Arika has the right to do whatever it pleases with your videos containing more than a few seconds of their content.

    As for emulation, emulation in general is perfectly fine yet the grey area arises with the files needed to use the emulator (The ROMs and BIOS files) as at that point you're entering piracy territory. In legal standing only the distributor can be prosecuted however it doesn't stop companies from trying to press charges against both ends to scare people away. The chances of you having any consequences for such are very, very slim unless you decide to publicly announce your deeds to the world. In regards as to whether or not Arika knows if your footage is from a PCB or not, unless we get Donkey Kong-level of proof it would be pretty much impossible to tell as people's endeavors in RGB capture has reached a point where we're seeing legitimate PCBs being recorded at an emulation-level of sharpness. Though I play on the real deal to not only show support to the cause, yet also for a bit of peace of mind in the eyes of Arika's legal teams.

    Right now the amount of "legal-sounding bullying" is more to do with another company stepping too far and the fans getting caught in the crossfire. Yet still it's their game(s) and they do have these rights. We already know Mihara has a sour disliking for TGM clones and emulation yet what I'm unsure about is whether or not he knows the real reasons as to why people turn to those instead of playing legit. Though that's a topic for another time/thread.

    For safety's sake I'd put it in both. Though I'm on the same boat as you where all I have to work with is the broken translation of the statement.
     
  10. I don't understand how this is "outdated". In fact, it sounds exactly like the kind of stuff copyright laws exist to protect.
    I guess something that could make it easier to deal with for the future is inventing some kind of special license game developers can put on their products, ensuring people the rights to stream or upload footage from the games within some legal constrictions.
    But then again, I assume it kind of already exists, considering the PS4 has a button on the controller with the single purpose of sharing footage from video games online. So I guess whenever a PS4 game has any part that doesn't block this function (which they can), that means they legally comply to people sharing the footage?
     

Share This Page