it's the potential i see at wikipedia that i like, not what's going on here. the specific request of removing the tetromino color tables i can agree with, because nobody is trying to make the argument that the piece colors have some effect on gameplay. but for Jappalang to say that much of the article is geeky and doesn't cater to the masses is a bit extreme, and it seems like an assumption about the readers that may not be true. to hold back information because you're afraid some people might not understand it doesn't make sense to me. he/she says that it would be fine to add a spin-off article "Mechanics of Tetris", and at the same time is hinting that we shouldn't waste our time because hardly anybody will understand or appreciate it. well, i really don't have a problem with this reasoning. i'm not offended personally that certain things in the article are considered unreliable because they came from tc. but again, it's not just an issue of sourcing, it's apparently an issue of relevancy. yeah, it's clearly not better it's exactly what i wouldn't want wikipedia to become. i was really just being honest that i can't help looking at the site a little differently now. maybe this is an isolated incident, and maybe i'm making too big of a deal about it. but while "unnecessarily minimized" may seem like a pessimistic statement, what i mean is that i don't see the site as reaching its full potential. in my experience, i've read wikipedia mostly to learn about things i knew nothing about, and usually i was interested in the subject matter, and it was nice to read something organized and reliable. i'm not saying i won't read it anymore, and perhaps now i'm even more confident that what i read there is confirmed truth. it's just kind of sad that some things are being held back. not because the info is from an unsubstantiated source (although there are a couple examples of that in the tetris article), but because it was decided that people wouldn't care about it or understand it. and i'm not talking about somebody writing a novel on lock delay and inserting it into the wikipedia tetris article considering though how much the game has changed, and how relevant these changes actually are (for example, we know that TGM3 bears little resemblance with gameboy tetris), i don't think it's excessive or irrelevant to discuss the specifics of these changes, and to do so requires one to speak technically and thoroughly. if somebody doesn't care so much about these things, they can skip to the next section.