NYET3 - most creative tetris game!

Thread in 'Other games' started by herc, 25 Nov 2006.

1. herc

@rich:

i tried it, but sadly it does not work. regardless what settings i try (also an exact copy of your dosbox config file) dosbox crashes if i enable soundblaster sound using the install.exe from nyet3. the only mode that works for me is pc speaker sound.

so i would like to ask you if you could make a complete zip file containing both nyetIII and dosbox including your config settings and a start.bat that runs that thing. there must be something i do wrong.

i know you are small on bandwith, but i really would appreciate this one. maybe use 7zip, it compresses much better.

thanks in advance!!

2. Rich Nagel

That's really strange. Maybe it's the version of DOSBox that I'm using (or maybe because I'm runnig Windows 98 SE).

I could do that for ya Send me an email at richnagel@earthlink.net , and I'll reply to it with the ZIP attachment (prolly be about 6 megs or so). I'll ZIP it up with directories in verbatim, so's when you unzip it, the files will be located in exactly the same place on your hard drive as they are on mine (although, I don't think that would be a problem).

3. Rich Nagel

Again, sorry for bumping an old archaic thread <G>.

Recently I've built myself up a semi-modern PC: Intel P4 2.666Ghz/512MB RAM/WinDoZe XPee Pro SP2/SBLive! CT-4780/blah/blah/blah to retire my other three ancient PCs.

Digital sound (as well as Adlib music) works fine with NYET3 using DOSBox. I also discovered that the sound worked no matter how I had DOSBox configured (via the "dosbox.conf" file): SB1/SB2/SBPro/SB16/etc...

8. Muf

I know this fun game you can play with Windows 9x, it's called "Count the BSODs"

If you're happy and you know it, unhandled exception 0E!

9. tepplesLockjaw developer

Blue screens in Windows 98 or stops in Windows XP are more often than not problems with device drivers.

At first, makers of PC hardware for use in homes wrote off NT 5 as something seen only in offices, as Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) had no edition priced for installation on home PCs. Two years later, Microsoft released NT 5.1 under the name Windows XP, and it had a Home Edition. At that point, the NT 5 drivers for a lot of home hardware were less mature than the Windows 4.x drivers because the manufacturers didn't take time to develop and test drivers during the Windows 2000 release cycle. That's why Windows XP got a bad rap at the beginning for instability. Windows Vista (NT 6) had the same problem because a new NT uses a new driver model (except Windows 7, which is really NT 6.1).

That said, I found the original NYET and AINT at the same time, and AINT's GPL license inspired me to make all my Carbon Engine games GPL too.

10. Muf

About the latter, yes. About the former, no. Windows 9x performs a one-armed juggling act between real mode and protected mode, and frequently drops the ball, causing the dreaded "Exception 0E" (which is the error code for an access violation). Effectively, there is nothing in place to prevent any userland process to call a legacy function and write to any area of the memory. Badly written drivers have little to do with it, although they do contribute to the problem. Compatibility in this case is a double-edged sword; the same code that allows you to run 16 bit Windows applications and play DOS games, is exactly what's causing all the instability. In any NT-based flavour, none of these problems are present, and as you say, any blue screens will be due to either faulty hardware (a known example of which is 0x50 - otherwise known as "Page fault in non-paged area"), or faulty drivers. This was the point I was jokingly making to Rich.

11. herc

You have the original NYET with ascii graphics ? can i please have it (pm | email | link) ?
what is AINT ?

12. Rich Nagel

(re: BSODs)

I've _rarely_ had BSODs on my W98SE PCs, short of something that I actually caused myself <G>. BTW, I'm still/was running the *original* installations of W98SE and DOSW311 on my three PCs (two with W98SE, the 486 with DOSW311) that I originall installed on them... never ever had to reinstall DOS/W311/W98SE on any of them - 486: DOS/W311 installed since 1994, 233: W98SE installed in 2000, and 500: W98SE installed in 2002

Hehe (as a private PC tech), have made quite a nice bit of pocket-change reinstalling WXP on customers' PCs though <G>

(re: AINT) Yeah, what is "AINT"?

13. m:)Unregistered

after that 80286, i washed my hands of ms altogether.

that 2400 modem reminds me of the TAG BBS days

14. Muf

I must admit it is possible to create pretty stable 9x installations, before I bought my tablet PC I had an old Sony Vaio with 98, onto which I installed all available upgrades and hotfixes, as well as some other modifications that improved stability and usability. It was the most stable 9x I'd ever used; but if I ever ran out of resources, errors and BSODs would still come raining down.

15. colour_thief

Placing my bet that it stands for AINT Is Not Tetris. But I have no idea.

17. tepplesLockjaw developer

Google brought me to this page, and I managed to get it working on Ubuntu 8.04 on my Eee PC.
Code:
(Applications > Accessories > Terminal)
sudo aptitude install dosbox
mkdir dos
mv Desktop/nyet.exe dos
(Applications > Games > DOSBox Emulator)
mount D ~/dos
AINT Is Not Tetris. It had a sequel called EGAINT with (for the time) high-resolution graphics, including a blockskin called "Pumped Full of Drugs". Pascal source code and MS-DOS binaries for AINT and EGAINT are in FOG DOS 324. And they work just as well in DOSBox.

Last edited: 18 Dec 2009
18. Rich Nagel

BTW, I have to thank you for the link to that site many moons ago (I think it was you who turned me on to that site), as there is where I was able to find a generic USB driver for W98SE that allowed me access to my Sandisk Sansa M230 MP3 player, as well as my flash drives

Hehe, I ran DR-DOS up until I got my first 386SX25 <G>. DR-DOS blew the living crap out of all incarnations of MS-DOS, and even shipped with quite a few things that Mickey\$oft hadn't even dreamed of yet (a disk scanning utility, defragger, GUI DOS shell, disk compression, etc...).

Oh man! The BBS days ....fondly remembering "Road Runner" and "Honey Dripper" down in Miami

@All, folks, sorry about dragging this thread down to such OT stuff. Going through some real sentiMEntal times after retiring my 486DX100 a few weeks ago. She booted up for the last time about two weeks ago. Then I packed 'er up for good

Many thanks for the info and links, Tepples

19. herc

@tapples: thanks , too !

this seems to be the very first NYET. but there must be a NYET 2 , that still had ascii graphics, but already those story mode with different missions and tasks, as in NYET III, the revenge of the mutant stones.

if anyone can find that NYET II, i would be really happy. played this one many years ago, bought a floppy disk in a super market with this game on it

nonetheless, very nice to have the NYET I, too. thanks tepples!