Records: [Lockjaw] Baboo!

Thread in 'Competition' started by tepples, 11 Nov 2007.

  1. tepples

    tepples Lockjaw developer

    You have 300 keystrokes. Make them count.


    Code:
    Mode: Baboo!
    ============================================================
    Name              Rot  Rnd  Score  KPT   YYYY-MM-DD  LJ Ver.
    ============================================================
    jujube ---------- SRS  Bag  17700  2.85  2008-02-12  0.43 PC
    Edo ------------- ARS  H6R  15200  2.60  2007-11-12  0.39 PC
    4matsy ---------- SRS  Bag  14000  2.70  2008-02-11  0.43 PC
    tepples --------- SRS  Bag  13800  2.85  2007-11-10  0.39 PC
    Ai -------------- SRS  Bag  12800  3.03  2008-04-25  0.45 DS
    
    Rules:
    • Gimmick: Baboo!
    • Well width: 10
    • Piece set: Tetrominoes
    • Deep drop: Off
    • Clear gravity: Naive
    • Gluing: Not Square
    • Scoring: LJ
    • Drop scoring: None
    • T-spin detection: Not Immobile
    • Garbage: None
    Sort by score (highest first), then by date (earliest first).

    Paste your score from lj-scores.txt in a reply. Here's mine:

    Code:
    Cleared Baboo!
    on 2007-11-10 at 21:47
    (rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)
    (grav=Naive, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=166 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)
    (10x20, bottom=Off)
    
    Played for 3:45.35 (active 3:40.85)
    Played 105 tetrominoes (27.95 per minute,
    28.52 per active minute)
    Pressed 300 keys (2.85 per tetromino)
    
    Made 40 lines
    (single: 0; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 10; T single: 0; T double: 0; T triple: 0)
    Sent 49 garbage (13.04 per minute)
    Left 20 blocks behind
    
    LJ score: 13800
    
     
    Last edited by a moderator: 28 Sep 2009
  2. jujube

    jujube Unregistered

    good idea tepples [​IMG]

    just a question: could there be a points bonus based on time? something like the time bonus in qualifying at the tetris cup? without that, it would be too tempting to let a T fall without soft dropping then spin it and let it auto lock to save a couple keystrokes.
     
  3. DIGITAL

    DIGITAL Unregistered

    I agree. This would be TDS all over again with no time bonus/penalty.


    EDIT: Would the Rhythm Zero speedcurve solve the problem?
     
  4. tepples

    tepples Lockjaw developer

    Baboo! is about kpt, not tpm. Look at this post by caffeine.

    Baboo! forces Zero speed curve.
     
  5. DIGITAL

    DIGITAL Unregistered

    I don't think it's a good idea to give the player infinite thinking time. It's like setting up a TAS.
     
  6. jujube

    jujube Unregistered

    ahh i see.


    Code:
    Cleared Baboo!
    on 2007-11-10 at 23:25
    (rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)
    (grav=Naive, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=200 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)
    (10x20, bottom=Off)
    
    Played for 3:00.06 (active 2:55.45)
    Played 106 tetrominoes (35.32 per minute,
    36.24 per active minute)
    Pressed 300 keys (2.83 per tetromino)
    
    Made 41 lines
    (single: 2; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 9; T single: 1; T double: 1; T triple: 0)
    Sent 52 garbage (17.32 per minute)
    Left 10 blocks behind
    
    LJ score: 14500
    i started with a yoshihiro:wink:
     
  7. jujube

    jujube Unregistered

    Code:
    Cleared Baboo!
    on 2007-11-10 at 23:57
    (rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)
    (grav=Naive, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=200 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)
    (10x20, bottom=Off)
    
    Played for 3:03.11 (active 2:58.76)
    Played 99 tetrominoes (32.43 per minute,
    33.22 per active minute)
    Pressed 300 keys (3.03 per tetromino)
    
    Made 37 lines
    (single: 0; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 6; T single: 3; T double: 5; T triple: 0)
    Sent 63 garbage (20.64 per minute)
    Left 22 blocks behind
    
    LJ score: 16300
    ljm
     

  8. In that case, would it not be wiser to make some sort of score like LJ Score/KPT, which would be used for the rankings?
     
  9. jujube

    jujube Unregistered

    i think another meaningful stat would be (tetrominoes played) / (blocks left behind).


    edit: unless of course you leave 0 blocks behind [​IMG]
     
  10. tepples

    tepples Lockjaw developer

    You always get (300/kpt) tetrominoes. This means the fewer keys per tetromino, the more pieces you can use to score with. Get your kpt down, and your score will go up. Another way of looking at it is that ranking based on score after the 300th keystroke is the same as counting points per keystroke.
     
  11. Trying to better learn how to place the pieces efficiently, especially now that I'm using the "far left" and "far right" keys (hence the 2-second DAS...<_<)


    So, at least for now, I'm not worrying about learning t-spins; I just did all tetrises instead. [​IMG]



    Cleared Baboo!

    on 2008-02-10 at 21:42

    Played 107 tetrominoes in 3:42.96 (28.79/min)

    (active time only: 3:38.40, 29.39/min)

    Pressed 300 keys (2.80/piece)


    Made 40 lines

    (single: 0; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 10; T single: 0; T double: 0; T triple: 0)

    Sent 49 garbage (13.18 per minute)

    Left 28 blocks behind


    LJ score: 13800

    Options


    Well: 10x20, Enter: Above

    Speed: Zero, ARE: 0 ms

    Randomizer: Bag of Tetrominoes

    Hold: On, empty, Rotation: SRS+initial

    Lock: Never, Deep: Off

    Line clear: 16 ms Naive, Gluing: Off

    Drop score: None, T-spin: 3-corner T

    Garbage: Off, DAS: 2000 ms Instant

    Soft drop: 1G Lock on release, Hard drop: Lock

    Shadow: Fainter color, Next: 3




    0.43 .ljm
     
  12. I find it odd that the scores and the KPT don't match in the rankings.
     
  13. Edo

    Edo a.k.a. FSY

    Code:
    Cleared Baboo!
    on 2007-11-12 at 16:21
    (rot=Arika, lock=300 ms Step reset, rnd=History 6 Rolls, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)
    (grav=Naive, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=200 ms 1/9G (6.7 Hz), shadow=Color, next=3 pieces)
    (10x20, bottom=Off)
    
    Played for 4:21.76 (active 4:14.85)
    Played 115 tetrominoes (26.35 per minute,
    27.07 per active minute)
    Pressed 300 keys (2.60 per tetromino)
    
    Made 44 lines
    (single: 0; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 11; T single: 0; T double: 0; T triple: 0)
    Sent 54 garbage (12.37 per minute)
    Left 16 blocks behind
    
    LJ score: 15200
    Just look at that DAS!!! [​IMG][​IMG]
    Still, it was the only way I could see of getting a respectable score with ARS.
     
  14. Hmm, changing my controls to use the far left/right keys helped a bit. No need to DAS anymore. [​IMG]

    Still not using t-spins yet...


    I would post the replay, but it seems to be bugged, as I discovered the one I posted earlier also was...it gets about 200-something keys in, and then appears to desync, and then suddenly stops before the end. [​IMG]



    Cleared Baboo!

    on 2008-02-11 at 20:56

    Played 111 tetrominoes in 2:54.81 (38.09/min)

    (active time only: 2:50.01, 39.17/min)

    Pressed 300 keys (2.70/piece)


    Made 42 lines

    (single: 2; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 10; T single: 0; T double: 0; T triple: 0)

    Sent 49 garbage (16.81 per minute)

    Left 24 blocks behind


    LJ score: 14000


    Options


    Well: 10x20, Enter: Above

    Speed: Zero, ARE: 0 ms

    Randomizer: Bag of Tetrominoes

    Hold: On, empty, Rotation: SRS+initial

    Lock: Never, Deep: Off

    Line clear: 16 ms Naive, Gluing: Off

    Drop score: None, T-spin: 3-corner T

    Garbage: Off, DAS: 2000 ms Instant

    Soft drop: 1G Lock on release, Hard drop: Lock

    Shadow: Faint color, Next: 3
     
  15. "I find it odd that the scores and the KPT don't match in the rankings."


    t-spins require soft drops, an extra rotation for some kick t-spins, and arguably more holding.
     
  16. jujube

    jujube Unregistered

    offset using edo's slow DAS technique [​IMG]

    Code:
    Result:
    
    Cleared Baboo!
    on 2008-02-12 at 01:06
    Played 105 tetrominoes in 7:22.96 (14.22/min)
    (active time only: 7:18.31, 14.37/min)
    Pressed 300 keys (2.85/piece)
    
    Made 39 lines
    (single: 0; double: 0; triple: 0; home run: 6; T single: 5; T double: 5; T triple: 0)
    Sent 69 garbage (9.34 per minute)
    Left 26 blocks behind
    
    LJ score: 17700
    Options
    
    Well: 10x20, Enter: Above
    Speed: Zero, ARE: 0 ms
    Randomizer: Bag of Tetrominoes
    Hold: On, empty, Rotation: SRS
    Lock: Never, Deep: Off
    Line clear: 16 ms Naive, Gluing: Off
    Drop score: None, T-spin: 3-corner T
    Garbage: Off, DAS: 200 ms 1/9G
    Soft drop: 1G Slide, Hard drop: Lock
    Shadow: Fainter color, Next: 8
    Oh we gonna rock down to Yoshihiro Avenue

    And then we'll take it higher
     
  17. Ai

    Ai

    I've been playing this game mode the last couple of days because it's quite useful when trying to learn to rotate using both buttons.


    As you can see I took my time. I tried to get as many tetrises as possible because I'm not yet familiar with t-spin setups.


     
  18. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    the important stat in baboo is not speed, but keys per tetromino.


    You are trying to reduce this as much as possible.
     
  19. Ai

    Ai

    I see thanks for pointing that out.


    By the way I used the most recent LJ version for the DS (0.45).
     
  20. Ai

    Ai

    DS verion as usual!



    Not really much improvement. Can't get more than 9 tetrises so far. Is there a C button on the DS version?
     

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