Second TGM3 GM on youtube.

Thread in 'Discussion' started by Zaphod77, 17 Jan 2008.

  1. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTnit5xI6AE


    10 tetrises during the staff roll!


    maxed play gauge.


    seems the game is programmed to reward overall solid, rapid, and mistake free play.


    If i didn't lnow netter, I'd say the game has an AI work out how good it was possible to do, and if you are as good as, or bea the AI, you get GM (chuckle)
     
  2. It's already posted in this thread.


    http://www.tetrisconcept.com/forum/view ... 7&start=30


    And the GM grade gets unlocked on your account when you qualify for GM in a Promotional Exam, exactly what triggers the GM promotional exam isn't known yet though, but we believe it has something to do with consistency on the previous (Master M) exams.
     
  3. I remember Mihara once said "to get grand master, do more tetrises !"

    Maybe there's two way to get GM: promotional exam AND 10 or more tetrises in invisible staff roll.

    I mean:

    Promotional exam: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo Golden stuff around the game area, Qualify: GM written at the right of the game area

    The new video: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=NTnit5xI6AE No golden stuff around the game area, no qualify: GM written.

    Moreover, the very ending of the game is totally different between the two videos which leads me to think that the way GM rank was obtained came from two different ways.
     
  4. Are you suggesting 10 tetrises during the m-roll give you GM regardless of the player's qualified rank? Because you can't get GM at all without first passing the GM promotional exam, so that's out of the question.
     

  5. Yes, that's what I think (check the edition of my last post)
     
  6. Poochy

    Poochy Unregistered

    My hypothesis is that you're judged during the m-roll in a fashion kinda like the central grading system at the S8-S9 levels. In other words, the game judges on both speed and efficiency, with a huge bonus for Tetrises. So, either playing very fast with decent efficiency (as demonstrated in Jin8's video) or at decent speeds with many Tetrises (as KAN does in his video) will earn you the Grand Master grade (provided you've already qualified for it). Also, I'd hypothesize that similar conditions are required for unlocking the promotional exam in the first place.
     

  7. Players already know that, before passing the GM qualification test, all provisional GM performances are demoted to MasterM.
     
  8. tepples

    tepples Lockjaw developer

    But how many consecutive MasterM performances on a single machine are needed to unlock the promotional exam?
     
  9. K

    K

    that's the question !
     
  10. I believe that it's closer to "How many performances that would be GM but are only displayed as MM are needed before you get a promotion exam?"
     
  11. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    That is my theory too. You need a certain number or consistency of GM level performance to be given the exam, to prove it's not just a fluke.
     
  12. DIGITAL

    DIGITAL Unregistered

    It's ironic isn't it? Having to prove you're capable of getting GM consistenty to unlock the GM promotional exam that in turn unlocks the provisional GM. All the while, you're just getting MM for performances that should have been GM.
     

  13. Yeah, but it does eliminate the luck. You need to properly be a GM before you can be one. You'll always get the odd exceptional run where the pieces go your way, but it's a lot harder to have consistency.

    Like me in TGM, where I got Gm on a run, and it took me ages to do it a second time.
     
  14. DIGITAL

    DIGITAL Unregistered

    Yes, except consistency is the promotional exam's job, not that of the provisional exam. Provisional GM is unlike the rest of the grades whereby it needs to be unlocked after you show consistency. It makes little sense to force consistency and then award flukes. It should be the other way around where you have to show that you can get provisonal GM before you can be awarded the promotional exam.
     
  15. mat

    mat

    it's cool the way they have it set up, but i too feel that you should be able to sit down at a completely fresh machine that you've never touched, and play a world record game.
     
  16. tepples

    tepples Lockjaw developer

    I wonder if number of consecutive MM games before exam is something the machine owner can configure in order to extract more money from upper level players trying to get GM on each machine.
     

  17. I doubt it.. if that was the case, people would've known about the GM rank a long time ago. But up until a little over 6 months ago (when Jin8 qualified for GM) we simply didn't know that there was a GM rank in the game.
     
  18. mat

    mat

    how do i always get the last post on a page? i've never intended to do that...
     

  19. There's nothing interesting at all in the service menu. Even the sound test is gimped.
     
  20. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer


    I think you misunderstand what "provsional GM" means.


    It simply means a performance that would give you the GM rank, if you had passed the exam. Once passed, there is no such thing as a "provisional GM". you either get the rank or you don't. Even the tetris God can't get GM before being offered the exam. All such performances are provisional GM.
     

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