Yeah deep bag concepts are neat, I should explore them more than I have. I have a framework where even for highly experimental randomizers I can automatically calculate exact drought curves, entropy, conditional entropy, perplexity etc. I keep meaning to properly write up the stuff I've discovered but have been perpetually side tracked. I don't think I've posted this here but this is probably as close as I'll get to a proper exposition for a while: twitch.tv/videos/1085579617 When you internalize my methods a bit you start getting pretty nice intuitions about how these different randomizers will play out. I'm definitely eternally passionate about this stuff so if you check it out and have questions hit me up!