Thread in 'Hardware' started by marionintendo, 5 Mar 2017.

1. ### marionintendo

I've recently picked up TGM, and am considering playing more seriously. Right now, I'm playing with a Hori Mini arcade stick. From what I understand, this stick is an 8-way square gate that cannot be modified. What I am currently looking for is a stick that has an 8-way square gate by default, but can be modified into a 4-way gate, to remove diagonals.

8. ### TGGC

Hori has a cheaper stick with this 4/8 gate, but the buttons are a bit shitty. If you wanna go cheap, you could replace just the 3 buttons you use with Sanwa ones. The stick is called "Hori real arcade pro 3". Its around 40-50 euros used on ebay. Theres also a "Hori real arcade pro 3 SA", it has teh Sanwa parts, but is a lot more expensive.

However my personal recommendation is too look real hard for a MadCatz Tournament Edition Stick, its possible to get them for around 60-80 euros used on ebay. Saves you all the hassle. The case is IMHO super solid and you can replace any broken parts quite easily, so its gonna last.

9. ### PARTY MAN X

I bought an HRAP4k recently, it's been pretty good so far, if you have any other specific questions, ask away. As BBQ said, the stick is 8 way only, but you can easily swap it out with a Sanwa JLF

I should note that the buttons are *very* bad (the stick kinda sucks too, but a bit less), they're spongy and tilt around since the plunger is so shallow. I'd recommend replacing everything on the stick with Sanwa parts, which puts it in the same price range as a MadCatz stick, just over time.

I suggest doing what a few others are suggesting in the thread and getting a pre-owned stick if you don't want to be spending \$200. Due to the nature of most sticks, they should be just fine getting them pre-owned. The parts are designed to take a beating and are all replaceable. You can just get an older MadCatz or Hori stick (sticks for 360 and PS4 are generally going to be good if you happen to get into other games that use sticks) for about the same price, and there's a good chance that you stick (hah) with it for a long time. Don't do a new cheap stick, most don't have any sort of weight to them which sucks.

10. ### EnchantressOfNumbers

Adding to what @Kitaru said, my Pana Custom has mounting holes specifically for Seimitsu mounting plates, so when I swapped the Seimitus that came with it for Sanwas, I had to get a couple Kowal S Plates to convert them. It really wasn't that bad, but I don't know if most fight sticks are going to have space for that.

11. ### marionintendo

Wow guys, these are some great suggestions, thanks for taking the time to reply and make me feel welcome. It means a lot, as a new member.

@PARTY MAN X , it's interesting you say that, since I've read many people online saying they converted to the Hayabusa stick after a few weeks of use (obviously to play fighting games, so this might explain the different reaction). I also learned about the Seimitsu LS-32 sticks, which include 8, 4 and 2-way restrictions. This is one deep rabbit hole, I didn't know customisation options were this varied. I guess I'll be on the lookout for used sticks, as well as the RAP4k if I can find a good deal. To be honest, I think I'm not mentally fast enough for the game yet, so I still have to cross that barrier before getting a better stick.

I guess my last question for the moment is: what's your general opinion @all on Seimitsu vs Sanwa? I've read somewhere that 4-way Sanwa, in the diamond shape (if I understood correctly), does not completely negate diagonals. When I'm looking at the clover-shaped gate for the Seimitsu, it might negate diagonals more, I don't know. There's also talk about the Sanwa being better for fighting games, and Seimitsu being better for STGs. I'll probably end up buying both in the coming year, but just for a taste of what's to come, what are your preferences? Buttons too, I guess.

12. ### Oliver

the seimitsu clover gate is bad dont buy one unless you plan to manually wear the edges down with a file or slowly wear them down over many many painful hours of play
the JLF is your best bet every time
in terms of buttons it doesnt really matter, sanwas are more sensitive which is kinda a double edged sword since you can do sick fast rotates with them but also they feather really easily so some people prefer seimitsus

13. ### EnchantressOfNumbers

To expand about the clover gate of Seimitsu sticks, in TGM2+ and TGM3 it is common to do circular moves on the stick - DAS to the right edge, sonic drop, move left 1 column, and lock - the clover shape of the Seimitsu restrictor makes these very difficult or uncomfortable to perform unless you wear down the edges.

I've never had an issue inputting a diagonal with my diamond gates on any of my sanwa sticks.

14. ### Sumez

Hopefully you're making good use of those Seimitsus elsewhere
LS-32 is an amazing joystick, and honestly, in my opinion it's better than Sanwa (just the clover gate makes it less viable for TGM)

15. ### marionintendo

Thanks for your recommendations, guys. I decided to arm myself with the Qanba Carbon and swapped in Sanwa parts. I've never had such quality parts before, I'm amazed! I managed to get an S3 rank on TGM1 for the first time (instead of an S2), great stuff And seriously, long live that 4-way gate.

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