America's first known Ti: Acme Bowl, Seattle

[Kitaru]

http://www.pnwbemani.net/smf/index.php?topic=3.795
Go rally for a TGM3 machine!


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EDIT: It's really happening!

[DumbledorsArmy]

Damn, I need to read better. In your post I swear I saw a 'D.C.' after Washington.... I'm not too far from D.C. for a road trip, but Washington state would be slightly farther...

But I guess Tetris is Tetris and the "common folk" prolly still play it and wouldn't notice the difference between TGM and the Gameboy version

there's no skill requisite for the game

So who thinks people might notice a difference between TGM3 and GameBoy Tetris??? And I think TGM3 requires a slight degree of skill..... at least to get your money's worth for playing on a arcade cab.

[Kitaru]

I think TGM3 is accessible enough. It does have Easy mode and World rule, after all. They happen to be the defaults, even; if you mashed through to the game, you'd have the easiest settings selected. Rotation rules are easier than GB Tetris, gravity would be a mite faster than people are used to, but I think just about anyone would be able to play and enjoy it.

[KevinDDR]

Thanks for posting about this!

If anyone is interested in visiting Washington to play Ti, it would be really nice if you could post in this thread stating that you'd rather have Ti.

I'm coming so close to getting our op to buy Ti, it would be a terrible shame if it gets cast aside due to god damn Jubeat.

[kotetsu213]

*runs away crying*

[DumbledorsArmy]

I think TGM3 is accessible enough. It does have Easy mode and World rule, after all. They happen to be the defaults, even; if you mashed through to the game, you'd have the easiest settings selected. Rotation rules are easier than GB Tetris, gravity would be a mite faster than people are used to, but I think just about anyone would be able to play and enjoy it.

Dammit, I keep forgeting Ti has the whole 'World' rule...

[muf]

Just a heads up Kevin, JVS isn't the only issue-- you do not want to play Ti on a 15KHz or 24KHz monitor. You need at least a 31KHz/Tri-sync monitor, and preferably a true flat. So that limits your cab options to NAOMI Universal, New Net City, EGRET 3, or a Vewlix (although that would have to be in pillarbox mode). You could also put it in an older cab that's been refurbed with a tri-sync monitor.

[colour_thief]

Just a heads up Kevin, JVS isn't the only issue-- you do not want to play Ti on a 15KHz or 24KHz monitor. You need at least a 31KHz/Tri-sync monitor, and preferably a true flat. So that limits your cab options to NAOMI Universal, New Net City, EGRET 3, or a Vewlix (although that would have to be in pillarbox mode). You could also put it in an older cab that's been refurbed with a tri-sync monitor.
Dont listen to muf he's a graphics whore! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif It looks fine on my Astro City. Obviously it would look better in a NAOMI cab, but it's not worth buying a new cab just for this game if you don't already have one. That would like double the price, and honestly I don't see most people caring. Most Ti cabs in Japan are on 15 KHz cabs because that's just what the arcade has available.

24 KHz won't physically work though I think, but there's no way in hell you have one of those.

[muf]

It looks fine on my Astro City. Obviously it would look better in a NAOMI cab, but it's not worth buying a new cab just for this game if you don't already have one.
I've mentioned before you should just get a Wei-Ya tri-sync for your Astro http://arcadeotaku.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_awe.gif

[jujube]

Washington state? might as well go to Japan http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

seriously though, if this happens and a profit is turned, other arcade owners in the states may be tempted to add Ti machines. that would be a good thing.

[tepples]

Just a heads up Kevin, JVS isn't the only issue-- you do not want to play Ti on a 15KHz or 24KHz monitor. You need at least a 31KHz/Tri-sync monitor, and preferably a true flat. So that limits your cab options to NAOMI Universal, New Net City, EGRET 3, or a Vewlix (although that would have to be in pillarbox mode). You could also put it in an older cab that's been refurbed with a tri-sync monitor.
Or any HDTV, right? As I understand it, 31 kHz is just EDTV, also called 480p or 576p depending on the vertical frequency. Putt-Putt in Fort Wayne uses retail LCD HDTVs to replace broken monitors in some of its cabs. I've tried a PC and a Wii with a Vizio 32" HDTV, and I couldn't notice any lag as long as it's receiving a progressive signal (tried 480p component, 480p VGA, 720p VGA, and 768p VGA).

[muf]

Or any HDTV, right? As I understand it, 31 kHz is just EDTV, also called 480p or 576p depending on the vertical frequency. Putt-Putt in Fort Wayne uses retail LCD HDTVs to replace broken monitors in some of its cabs. I've tried a PC and a Wii with a Vizio 32" HDTV, and I couldn't notice any lag as long as it's receiving a progressive signal (tried 480p component, 480p VGA, 720p VGA, and 768p VGA).
I play it on a 37" 1080p LCD HDTV, but those tend to not fit into 4:3 arcade cabinets. The cable is just D-Sub (for some inane reason DVI-D doesn't work), so anything that can display 640x480 over D-Sub is fine. What kind of cabinets are you talking about anyway? 16:9 rhythm game cabinets?

[tepples]

At Putt-Putt in Fort Wayne, we have a working Pump It Up In The Groove 2 (8-panel rhythm game) and a working Pump It Up Pro (10-panel rhythm game). Both cabinets are designed to take what appears to be a 32" CRT. The ITG2 has its original monitor, but the one in the PIU Pro has been replaced with a Magnavox LCD TV. Being 16:9, it isn't as tall as the stock monitor, and I could see the controls and the (unused) internal speakers through the cab's front window. It works fine for PIU, but screen geometry probably matters more for Tetris than for a rhythm game, and you'd probably have to set the TV to pillar-box (4:3) mode if you don't want Ti to look stretched like Tetris Jr.

I suck at Pump more than I suck at Tetris.

[KevinDDR]

Looks like progress is being made...Bill seems like he will buy the cab as soon as one for a decent price is found. In case Sophia Corp. doesn't turn out to work, is there anywhere else?

[sjoecool1991]

At Putt-Putt in Fort Wayne, we have a working Pump It Up In The Groove 2 (8-panel rhythm game) and a working Pump It Up Pro (10-panel rhythm game). Both cabinets are designed to take what appears to be a 32" CRT. The ITG2 has its original monitor, but the one in the PIU Pro has been replaced with a Magnavox LCD TV. Being 16:9, it isn't as tall as the stock monitor, and I could see the controls and the (unused) internal speakers through the cab's front window. It works fine for PIU, but screen geometry probably matters more for Tetris than for a rhythm game, and you'd probably have to set the TV to pillar-box (4:3) mode if you don't want Ti to look stretched like Tetris Jr.

I suck at Pump more than I suck at Tetris.

Technically, ITG is 4 panel, and PUI is 5 panel http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[KevinDDR]

So Kitaru changed the topic title. This is because the game is

Time to get cracking...

[Meroigo]

Is Seattle, USA by any chance near Lund, Sweden? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif.............

[Kasumi]

I wish I lived there, or knew someone that lived there so I'd have an excuse to go. I'd love to play the actual Ti.

[KevinDDR]

I bought some Japanese Fanta Grape.

[colour_thief]

Holy hell this is awesome. Even though I've got Ti I'd love to hang out in an arcade with other enthusiasts and play it... It's too bad DeHackEd and I are so far away. Kevin! It is now your duty to make sure as many people as possible enjoy the game! I'm expecting you to direct people to TC and stuff so they can learn more. This machine must be profitable! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[KevinDDR]

Oh yeah. If this machine isn't profitable, it'll probably be my head on the chopping block. I'll be sure to provide all players with TC info and put up TC flyers if people can provide them for me. I'll see if I can get mvco to start posting on TC for updates on the machine's condition.

The news on the actual cabinet model is non-existant, but a new post this morning confirms that the payment is complete and the kit is on its way.

Anybody up for Seattle the Grand Master: The Meeting?

[Amnesia]

And by the way, during your TI promotion quest to find some new padawans, try to sell them some photos of me, c_t and DIGITAL, with our dedication on it..
I think 20$ is not really expensive..It is even too much generous.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[KevinDDR]

I think I'm going to post up the current Ti Leaderboards on the machine when we get it. Hopefully that will give people something to shoot for!

Does Ti store records for user data separately for World and Classic? I know it saves record data separately, but I wasn't sure how it deals with World vs. Classic for promotions.

[muf]

Does Ti store records for user data separately for World and Classic? I know it saves record data separately, but I wasn't sure how it deals with World vs. Classic for promotions.
No it doesn't, but it does display a line under your user rankings which is blue if you only play classic, red if you only play world, or two-tone if you play both, proportioned by how much you've played in which rule.

[statikeffeck]

Kevin! you gotta organize tournaments with this! Its the best way to invoke interest in an arcade game (just look at Marvel vs Capcom 2)! Start out small like monthly tournaments. See if you can do prizes too.

anyone have any tips on getting their local arcades to carry the game? I'm not too familiar with the arcade business model.... but I've been thinking about it. If an arcade owner is not willing to purchase a desired game, do you think they would allow someone else to purchase and maintain it and keep it there, splitting the profits? Or do all the games in an arcade always are owned by the same owner?

[DumbledorsArmy]

Totaly off track with everyone else, but will you be posting pics of yourself dry humping Ti? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

(Just so everyone knows, I am constanly joking around with peeps so don't take this too serious. Kinda hard to convey your tone over the internet.)

[colour_thief]

Muf didn't quite explain it all so I'll throw in my 2 cents too.

Does Ti store records for user data separately for World and Classic? I know it saves record data separately, but I wasn't sure how it deals with World vs. Classic for promotions.

The game saves the records independently for the machine's highscores.

For an individual's records, the game keeps track of them seperately as well. However, only the best record will be displayed, and the font will be coloured red (World) or blue (Classic) to indicate the system used. Underneath the record the will be a "progress bar" style line that shows the relative strength of the different records. If you were eg. qualified 1 (Classic) and S9 (World), you'd have a red S9 with a bar that was about 1/3 blue and 2/3 red. If you look at my screenshots you'll notice everything is in a blue font with 100% blue lines because I only use Classic. If I do pick world I suicide so that my record stays at 0 leaving my bar blue. If you haven't played at all, so that Classic == World == 0, you get a solid red line instead of no line. If your records are tied, the font is red (World).

Hopefully that makes sense to you. So while you can only see your best record ever, you can see what system it was and how close you are to the other system. And the game maintains entirely seperate qualified grades with the different systems. (Or at least I'm 99% sure it does... I don't know anyone who has played both systems enough to get 2 exams.)

[KevinDDR]

Hopefully that makes sense to you. So while you can only see your best record ever, you can see what system it was and how close you are to the other system. And the game maintains entirely seperate qualified grades with the different systems. (Or at least I'm 99% sure it does... I don't know anyone who has played both systems enough to get 2 exams.)

That's what I'm curious about. I'll find out.

[Burbruee]

Is Seattle, USA by any chance near Lund, Sweden? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif.............
http://www.citycomparator.com/compare/1 ... attle.html (http://www.citycomparator.com/compare/166_lund_vs_268_seattle.html)
Distance: 7,781 km / 4,835 miles

Let's start walking!

[Meroigo]

That should be no problem, since I'm Jesus and I can walk on water. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

[mat]

the arcade is about a three hour drive from where i'm at--i've already started organizing the first pilgrimage, would be great if we could get the first event to coincide! and i've begun playing tgm again, as it's been a pretty facebook world for me the last few months. i set up my joystick for the first time in a long time. i usually play with a button layout of B A C instead of A B C, so i switched it to A B C and am trying to get comfortable playing with my fingers moved over to B C, as i think it's much more likely i'll be ok with that than actually learning to play with the buttons reversed.

[KevinDDR]

See, I used to play with hold ABOVE the ABC buttons, which is really really confusing for me now. I used to use my middle finger for hold, but now I'm having to learn to use thumb. Still, my old record on Texmaster Special Ti was an S7 and I am consistently getting S6s now with the correct layout. I don't think it'll be too bad.

[colour_thief]

the arcade is about a three hour drive from where i'm at--i've already started organizing the first pilgrimage

That's awesome matt, I'm glad you'll get to play the game. I expect you to show the locals the true power of the Classic rotations! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

I really wish I could make it there too but it's just too crazy far away. Maybe I should talk one of Toronto's Japanese style arcades into getting the game...

[KevinDDR]

Kevin,

You will happy to hear that GM3 is shipping to us right now. Just be patient while we get it kitted up. So, this game uses a standard resolution? That is what it looks like from what Sophia said, but I wonder?


Well, looks like it's coming really really soon!

Crossposting is good.

[muf]

"Standard resolution" = 31KHz?

[KevinDDR]

Standard res. is 15KHz, but fear not; I told Bill that the game will look much better on a 31KHz monitor.

Now if only I can score some pre-installation warehouse testing like someone else did with our IIDX machine...

[tepples]

Here's how I remember it: Standard resolution is the same as standard-definition TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television), or 15.7 kHz (240p/480i). Ti runs natively at enhanced resolution, or 31.5 kHz (480p), and apparently (http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/monitor9.php) raster replacement monitors for vector games do the same. A few games run in a 25 kHz, 384p "medium" resolution that's between standard and enhanced.

[muf]

I know what standard res normally means, I just wanted to verify what it meant for Bill, as the whole resolution thing has been mentioned before. Also, now that a lot of games are going HD, people might confuse "high res" with "HD" and "standard res" with "high res". Hence the question.

[TWF]

Our tech has posted that the kit is here, he just needs to get it into a cab. I'm really exited! Expect pictures soon, and maybe videos.

[lee n]

.. and maybe videos.
In japan they frequently do "my first" type videos of new games on nicovideo, you should film people the first time they play Ti http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Ezzelin]

Alright! This should be great... Acme is 20 minutes away from my place. When are we meeting up? Honestly, I never play Ti rules, only TAP, but I guess it's time to practice up on Ti rules. Is there anything I can set that will make the game more TAP like besides Classic rules? Any way to disable Hold/3 piece preview/floor kick? How does the high score system in Ti work? Does the machine keep score for each player?

Also, I have the Tekken arcade joystick, but I'm sure it's 8 way. Is there anything I can do short of physical modification to make it play more like a 4 way joystick?

[Zaphod77]

There is no way to remove hold and the previews.

Always play Classic. it is how the game was intended to be played.

Score is meaningless in master mode and shirase. Grade and mastering time are what matter.

You can score attack or firework attack in Easy mode.

And if you are bored, and liked Flash Point, you can always try Sakura mode instead.

Be sure to log into the machine, and create an account so you can earn ualified grades thru promotional exams!

[KevinDDR]

I'm super super excited!

Ezzelin...you should have told me earlier that you exist! I didn't know any TC members were in the Seattle area other than Radish.

Also, to clear any confusion up for those who are viewing the PNWBemani/VJArmy threads, I am indeed KevinDDR. I need to get around to telling Caffeine about that...

Our op is doing the cab conversion (whatever that means...I hope it's not some odd cabinet!) right now. If it's ready by this weekend, I was thinking about heading down there whatever day it arrives. Bill will probably post ahead of time, so I'll in turn post here to keep you guys updated.

[tepples]

.. and maybe videos.
In japan they frequently do "my first" type videos of new games on nicovideo
As do anglophones on YouTube. Look up "Let's Play".

"Cab" is short for cabinet, and "conversion" means loading a new game into an old cabinet.

[KevinDDR]

Oh yeah, I understand that. I just thought he might have been referring to converting a non-JVS cabinet to JVS or something.

[mikehaggar]

So what happened with this?

[KevinDDR]

Well, here's the last post from mvco:
Kevin, please confirm that the Tetris GM3 is supposed to be a two player cabinet? It appears that way, although we do not quite have it booted on the monitor yet.

It should be coming soon; a while back, he said it would take a week or so and it's indeed been about a week. The game has arrived and is being installed right now.

[DIGITAL]

It should be coming soon; a while back, he said it would take a week or so and it's indeed been about a week. The game has arrived and is being installed right now.
Pictures or it's not true!

[KevinDDR]

Unfortunately I am not Bill, nor do I have access to his warehouse (hehehe...we'll see about that! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif).

I'll bug him again today though; hopefully that will result in something.

[Pineapple]

Yes, it's a 2 player cab. Show him CT's photos if necessary.

[mikehaggar]

The game is 2-player, but seeing a picture of the game being run on a 2 player cabinet is not proof of this. You can put any jamma game inside of any jamma cabinet. Unless you actually had a pic of two people playing simultaneously, then it wouldn't prove anything.

[lee n]

The game is 2-player, but seeing a picture of the game being run on a 2 player cabinet is not proof of this. You can put any jamma game inside of any jamma cabinet. Unless you actually had a pic of two people playing simultaneously, then it wouldn't prove anything.
How about a video of two people playing VS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qCoDlHsBg

[KevinDDR]

...moving right along, here's a post from mvco:

It's now booted up, waiting for it's control wiring and control panel button and sticks. Getting closer, should be at Acme next week.

Can't wait!

[mikehaggar]

The game is 2-player, but seeing a picture of the game being run on a 2 player cabinet is not proof of this. You can put any jamma game inside of any jamma cabinet. Unless you actually had a pic of two people playing simultaneously, then it wouldn't prove anything.
How about a video of two people playing VS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qCoDlHsBg

That works!

[KevinDDR]

Bill confirmed that the cabinet is coming tomorrow. EVERYONE GET HYPER! Are you ready for Ti?!?!?!

I'll make sure to bring the Fanta Grape.

[jujube]

i'd like to see the reactions of people in the arcade when a clan enters and huddles around the Ti machine, drinking Fanta Grape and speaking some bizarre rhetoric. bah, maybe they'll get over it when they see you guys play.

[Ezzelin]

Alright, tomorrow! I'll try to be there. What time are we meeting?

edit: Ah, I see that it's supposed to arrive around 11:00 to noon. I'll be there before 11:00 then!

[KevinDDR]

I'd love to attend the arrival, but I'm stranded at school until 3pm. I'll get to Acme at 5pm, and I'll be there until I have satisfied my craving for TGM.

[KevinDDR]

The machine has arrived! Picspam and more detailed info coming tomorrow. Here's a video that pretty much sums up my experience:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL5Xq5MkJJ8 - Acme Bowl gets TGM3

Quick notes:
Game is $.50 per credit
Joysticks are 4way, but really tough paddle sticks
Buttons are American style
Cabinet is a generic American-style wood cab
Monitor is 15Khz

Also I beat Amnesia's World Master record. That's about it.

[mikehaggar]

Wow, so the US got a Ti before ever getting a TAP. I wonder if the latter will ever happen... *sigh*

[Kitaru]

Wow, so the US got a Ti before ever getting a TAP. I wonder if the latter will ever happen... *sigh*
Nope; I've heard reports of a TAP at Planet Zero in Houston, Texas. However, I also heard this machine possibly has 8-way sticks...? I'll try to get the person that told me about it to go check out the machine at some point to verify.

EDIT: There are also two known TGM1 machines in the US. One is at the student union arcade at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and the other is at Arcade UFO in Austin, Texas.

[Ezzelin]

I also played on the machine today; it's working great. Arrived there at around 11:15AM, and got the first plays in. The guy who delivered it (don't think it was Bill) gave me a couple of credits to inaugurate the machine. I topped out at 500 on the first one. Yes, the stick was a paddle type.

A few pictures are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3010133912/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3010133912/default.htm)
And I took a video just showing the machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWU_3rDtMDQ&fmt=18

I came back at 5:00 to try to catch Kevin, but I had to leave at 6:00 before he came at 6:15. Traffic was terrible today. Sounds like Sunday might possibly be on for another meeting time at the Ti.

[LOst]

Good Ezzelin! Nice pictures http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Also did you notice KAN at the hiscore? It's sure is an old hiscore of him. He hangs around the arika channel at times. Thank god it is an old hiscore because then people in the US might beat him some day soon.

[muf]

There's also this: http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/K ... aster%203/ (http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/KevinDDR/Tetris%20The%20Grand%20Master%203/default.htm)

It must've been pretty disappointing to see Ti raped in a woodie cab with bat-top joysticks. Of course, not that it would put any kind of damper on the excitement of playing a real Ti for the first time, but it's like.. We warned Bill about these things; put it in a candy cab, make sure the monitor is 31KHz, put in Japanese joysticks... Still, congrats on being able to play it now! I know of my own experience how awesome it is, especially if you're hearing all the sounds and music, and seeing the graphics properly in person for the first time. First time I played I turned up the volume and just immersed myself. But then again, I was in my own bedroom and the machine was set to free play http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[colour_thief]

So awesome! And KAN's records are so weak that I'm wondering if it had a bat top stick on location in Japan as well! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif Seriously, while the records aren't bad I could erase all sign of KAN in a single session. They're definitely not on par with a TAP Master/Death GM ranked player. Maybe it's a different KAN?

put it in a candy cab, make sure the monitor is 31KHz, put in Japanese joysticks

I agree that that would make for an awe inpiring experience, but this doesn't have to happen all at once. In terms of being playable, the only urgently needed change is to put a good stick in there (and mmmmaybe some Japanese buttons, but that's much less critical). If the machine is a success I'm sure the rest could follow.

[Rosti LFC]

Could always ask Kan if it's him. Nice to know that at one point he wasn't even as good as I am now. Hard to imagine it really...

[Ezzelin]

I added one more picture showing a closeup of the current joystick setup at the TGM3 machine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/30 ... 9/sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3010640999/sizes/o/default.htm)

[KevinDDR]

Well, at least the main problem is being fixed: Bill ordered new sticks for the cabinet!

[lee n]

Well, at least the main problem is being fixed: Bill ordered new sticks for the cabinet!
Go Bill.

[jujube]

that's really cool of him.

[DIGITAL]

When you hit GM one day, you'll know who to thank. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Xkeeper]

Too bad I live in Spokane (opposite side of Washington state), or I'd be all over this.

Sounds like I need to get a road trip going. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif

[Ezzelin]

For sure! Let us know when you are coming...

[Ezzelin]

Met up with Kevin Friday at Acme. For those who were wondering about why the place was so empty before, it was much busier on a Friday night. Got a video of Kevin playing Shirase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIT_kYVn9GU&fmt=18

The Vs. Level is currently set to 100 (which gives only 1:20 per round). I posted about this on the PNWBemani board; hopefully this can be resolved soon.

[KevinDDR]

So TGM3 is currently the second lowest earner at Acme Bowl. This is not good. I'm doing a lot to try and promote the game now; if any of you guys regularly post on arcade gaming sites with regional based threads, you should help advertise this! This might be the only chance anyone will ever get in the US to play TGM3, and I really don't want to see it fail.

[Ezzelin]

So I met up with kaput on Sunday at Acme. I finally passed level 500, and got a 1! OK, that's not much for the crowd around here, but it was good for me. I also tried the right stick on the machine for the first time. It's much worse than the left one! So until the new sticks get here, stick to the left. Oh, and the left coin slot is not as reliable as the right one. I had to knock the cabinet a few times to get the coins to go through on the left slot, and it got jammed on Sunday. I told the guy a the register before I left, so hopefully it's been fixed, but either way it's best to avoid it.

A couple pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3038796343/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3038796343/default.htm)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3038796351/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzelin/3038796351/default.htm)

[DIGITAL]

I had to knock the cabinet a few times to get the coins to go through on the left slot, and it got jammed on Sunday. I told the guy a the register before I left, so hopefully it's been fixed, but either way it's best to avoid it.
Shhh! It doesn't need the bad publicity. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[muf]

I had to knock the cabinet a few times to get the coins to go through on the left slot, and it got jammed on Sunday. I told the guy a the register before I left, so hopefully it's been fixed, but either way it's best to avoid it.
Shhh! It doesn't need the bad publicity. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
That's just the shitty cab it's in. If an arcade operator is going to put an obscure game in a bland and worthless cabinet, they're asking for it to be a low earner.

[kapat]

also, the placement of it is really really bad. it's in the worst spot WITH the worst cabinet. So hopefully he'll want ot get rid of it, and then i can buy it off him.

[KevinDDR]

Hopefully it does not get sold...I will fight you to the death for it...http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

Anyway, I'll see what I can do to get Bill to move the cabinet. Those flyers would sure come in handy!

I'm thinking about having the tournament on December 14th. Anyone interested? The tournament will be well advertised if this date is confirmed, I can assure you of that.

Also, I would not call the Acme people in general retards. Bill is an entirely separate entity from Acme. However, he must bend to their desires and they are not trying to run this machine into the ground or anything of the sort. In fact, the only reason a tournament might happen is because Acme asked Bill specifically to ask me if I was interested in running one. You might want to think twice before insulting people who are reading this board. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[kapat]

sorry, i'm not trying to knock you, or bill. i just work at a competiting bowling alley and get a LOT of guff from the owners of that place.
[not directly, but might as well be] I know a lot of people who work there and they're pretty cool. the bartenders used to bowl everyweek and i drank lots of beer with them. i apol - o - gize.

[KevinDDR]

Oh yeah, no problem. I just really want this game to succeed, as it's currently the only one in the US. Let's see if it won't stay that way! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[DIGITAL]

Let's hope it stays that way! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Fixed! Sorry, the other one gave off a negative vibe. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

EDIT: Just realized I was looking at it from the wrong angle. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif *unfix*

[Ezzelin]

I had to knock the cabinet a few times to get the coins to go through on the left slot, and it got jammed on Sunday. I told the guy a the register before I left, so hopefully it's been fixed, but either way it's best to avoid it.
Shhh! It doesn't need the bad publicity. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
That's just the shitty cab it's in. If an arcade operator is going to put an obscure game in a bland and worthless cabinet, they're asking for it to be a low earner.
Whoa, whoa, I'm being misinterpreted! All I meant was to avoid that coin slot, not the game! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif The game is wonderful. Even the right joystick is just a little stiff, not bad, per se. Both joysticks are supposed to be replaced soon, anyways. And coin slots can get jammed on any game. Anyway, I don't think the game is really in a terrible place or cabinet at the moment. Sure, it's not right there when you enter, but it is out in the open in a small arcade. Give it some time, it'll do fine. Oh, and I'm all for the tournament on the 14th of December. I'll have to check my schedule, but I'll probably be able to make it.

[kapat]

ANOTHER Ti question:

classic rule and world rule.

i cna't read japanese, so .....it's a buncha just whatever to me. but i noticed there is like lock diffrences between the 2 plus the buttons are diffrent.

it kinda messed me up cause i learned to play left handed [world rule buttons] using classic rule drop-lock-pop-lock whatever mechanics. is there any way to mix the 2, or should just just relearn to hit a diffrent button?

[colour_thief]

There's no way to mix the two, but unless you're using all 3 rotation buttons you can just slide your fingers over.

[kapat]

yeah, that's what i ended up doing, but it made my finger 1 button farther away from hold, which ....did a LOT more damage then i expected.
is there any OTHER diffrence between the 2 modes?

oh...and whats the time limit you need to get past 500 in master? i kept getting 500 at like 7:30 .... [i know, it's horrible. but what time do i need ot aim for?]

[Kitaru]

"...finger 1 button farther away from hold,..."
You're not using your thumb for Hold?

Also, the time limit at 500 is 7 minutes.

[Kasumi]

Is anything in the works for the fliers? Have we come to a general consensus of what exactly we want on them/what size we want them to be?

[colour_thief]

I think muf is cooking up something fancy. I bet we'll have it covered soon. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[muf]

I'm doing a translated instruction strip, a translated instruction card, and possibly a flyer and/or poster.

[kapat]

lemme know if i can help in anyway for the flyers

[The Enigmatic Form]

You should check muf´s Ti highscore thread, there are alot of infos about the differences between World and Classic. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[KevinDDR]

Great news! Our TGM cabinet's USB security dongle is dead.

Fuck my life. I worked so hard for this game and now it's fucking dead without repair.

Anyway, we'll be performing a vasectomy on the cabinet likely tomorrow. If you think hard enough about it, you'll get what I mean.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Why don´t you contact the seller and ask if they could help you out?
Giving up such an expensive game without even trying to resurrect it sounds just wrong. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

And are you sure it´s the USB dongle?

[KevinDDR]

No no no! I didn't mean it like that! I mean that we have a way to "fix" the problem. At any rate, the machine is booted up right now at Sakura-Con and we're going to fix it next time it doesn't boot. There's a way around this stuff...