[TAP] Master - Big Mode (BIG Code)

[Rosti LFC]

Thought this might be an interesting competition. Something slightly different to those that test speed - something that tests your block stacking.

For those too lazy to look up the activation code, it's LLLLDCBA


Player Grade Level Time
-------------------------------------------
1. mfm005 S5 699 7:10:01
2. Caithness S4 599 6:18:48
3. Amnesia 1 435 5:28:93
4. colour_thief 1 417 4:42:86
5. rednefed 1 415 4:51:29
6. DeHackEd 1 408 4:08:20
7. nahucirujano 1 393 4:25:85
8. gila 1 374 4:15:78
9. cgwg 1 363 4:17:58
10. jujube 2 353 4:45:86
11. Poochy 2 346 4:06:03
12. Ai 2 344 3:53:68
13. Rosti LFC 2 312 3:43:86
14. DDRKirby(ISQ) 2 299 4:12:46
15. cyberguile 3 272 3:01:16
16. Herc 3 254 3:51:63
17. TWF 3 240 3:19:06
18. Bou 4 172 2:14:18
19. Gaby - 145 -:--:--
20. Kapat 4 141 2:22:98
21. Budster 4 131 1:53:23


One to start us off, but I don't have any idea if it's a good score or not (I'm guessing not):

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/bigmodebest.jpg

[Amnesia]

That seems interesting, thank for the code..

You are right I am too lazy to find it again.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
If we "catch" the technic, that could be an easy m rank for us..

[tepples]

Given that this competition tests stacking, could you have it scored by level? Or are you basing it on score to weed out players who use a simulator that supports the same big mode but not the scoring system that hasn't been wikified?

[Rosti LFC]

Given that this competition tests stacking, could you have it scored by level? Or are you basing it on score to weed out players who use a simulator that supports the same big mode but not the scoring system that hasn't been wikified?


I was thinking of scoring it by grade (with time as a tiebreaker), but I'm unsure. Level would test survival, but grade would too, and grade would reward doubles etc more than singles.


Then again, going for Tetrises on this mode is basically the luck of getting an I piece at the exact right time.


I could do it by level, and accept LJ scores, but I'd want the Master speed curve, ARS, the randomiser and also the piece entry inside the field so that players would die under the same circumstances on each.

[herc]

can you help? i cant get big mode.


when do i have to press "left left left left button4,3,2,1" ?

[Rosti LFC]

can you help? i cant get big mode.

when do i have to press "left left left left button4,3,2,1" ?


Left, Left, Left, Left, Down, 3, 2, 1

[herc]

doesnt work... WHEN do i have to press the sequence ? in the menu or during a game? if i press the sequence in the menu, after i press 3 simply a new game is started....

[Edo]

Enter the code at the title screen, before pressing start. Yellow text should appear on the left to confirm correct entry:

[gila]

this is probably laughable:


http://gila.deathmask.net/tetris/tgm2p.png

[Rosti LFC]

Improvement:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/bigmodebest-1.jpg

[Amnesia]

DAWN IT IS SO HARD !!!


Sorry rosti, when I saw your lv 175..I though "Haa..poor rosti.."

But after 10 attempts my best is only around 230( I forget the screenshoot)..I have been very surprised by the difficulty of the thing.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
One thing is sure, we need a lot of training to finish one day the SHIRASE.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

In fact, what I imagined about the lines is differents..A Tetris with a I increases by 4 and not by 8.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

The best way for me to survive is : ONLY THINK SINGLES !!!


EDIT : congratz for the SK edo!

[K]

yes that's more harder than we can think,

i've done somthing like 200+ but not very more this morning after a few try...


btw, you can also re-enter the cheat just after the game over display, when push start button is blinking.

As long as you press a button the "push start button" will remain... so even if you fail the code, just try it again and again.

[colour_thief]

I'll try this eventually, but I've been in a Ti frame of mind recently.


btw, you can also re-enter the cheat just after the game over display, when push start button is blinking.
As long as you press a button the "push start button" will remain... so even if you fail the code, just try it again and again.


Hehe. I remember showing people this could be done at the Strasbourg meeting. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Good times.

[gila]

wow, didn't know that you can re-enter the code after the game over screen, thanks!


another funny thing about big block mode is that SK is awarded for clearing 8 lines with I, instead of several 4- or 6- line clears (big doubles).

[Edo]

EDIT : congratz for the SK edo!


Amnesia, you're mistaken, that was gila, not me! However I have actually managed a gold SK before... I'll post a video on youtube when I find time.

[Rosti LFC]

wow, didn't know that you can re-enter the code after the game over screen, thanks!

another funny thing about big block mode is that SK is awarded for clearing 8 lines with I, instead of several 4- or 6- line clears (big doubles).


Also that it seems to reward the medal after only one clear, unlike the normal settings for Master.


Does anyone know what the criteria for silver and gold are? Are the medals awarded at 1,3 and 5?

[Edo]

ST: same as normal blocks?

SK: "8-line tetrises" required: Bronze=1, Silver=2, Gold=4.

RE: same as normal blocks. 150 blocks or more -> 70 blocks or less constitutes a "recovery": Bronze=1, Silver=2, Gold=4.

RO: same as normal blocks?

CO: "4-line doubles" or higher required: Bronze=2, Silver=3, Gold=4.

AC: same as normal blocks.

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/tgm2bigmode272.jpg

I tried the normal mode, it's horrible: the second "special" tetromino destroys everything

Give it a go and you'll understand what I mean http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[kapat]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee208/randlebar/4-bigmode.jpg


this is probably a sign that i'm not thatr good, but after playing aoubt an hour in big mode i tried reg master mode agian and i did better then i ever did before. i wonder if the big mode helped. if it did it made me see how to use tight spaces instead of me thinking that there's a whole wide open space over to the left or right. i dunno.

[herc]

same effect for me - i feel some subtle improvements after playing bigmode.


but big mode is a tough one...


rosti: how many trials did it take you to reach 299 ??

[gila]

there is actually a video on youtube (can't dig up the url now) where a guy completes TGM's BIG MODE and gets Gm; the score/ranks go up crazy fast and then he just plays until he hits level 999...


i tried beating TGM's BIG MODE several months ago. i did it out of curiosity but i used savestates and using them i found out that even if the space is super-small there are still plenty ways of stacking the tetraminos.


the thing i love about BIG MODE is that after playing it for a while, you fire up NORMAL/MASTER mode and the blocks seem *so* small http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[tepples]

I've been told that TGM's big mode is even harder, as it's possible to place a piece at a half-block increment, making the lines below it unclearable.

[K]

I've been told that TGM's big mode is even harder, as it's possible to place a piece at a half-block increment, making the lines below it unclearable.


in TGM1 yes, it is much more harder by what you explained. 1 error = Game over


from TAP the horizontal increment is fixed to 2 by 2.

But in TGM-ACE road mode game mode mix, you may encouter garbage issues. In that particular case vertical decalage is possible and lead to tricky situation, but far less difficult than TGM1 horizontal decalage.

[Rosti LFC]

Leader board added in case people haven't noticed


rosti: how many trials did it take you to reach 299 ??


Not a huge number. Probably around 10 to 15 runs.

I've had quite a few attempts since then though, and I've not been able to come than close to it.


I love how when you switch to Master after a few Big Block games it feels like micro-Tetris. I don't think it's made me improve on Master, but it's certainly a strange feeling.

[Caithness]

I tried the normal mode, it's horrible: the second "special" tetromino destroys everything
Give it a go and you'll understand what I mean http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif


You just have to make sure to get a bravo when you clear that block. Easier said than done, I know...

[Rosti LFC]

I tried the normal mode, it's horrible: the second "special" tetromino destroys everything
Give it a go and you'll understand what I mean http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

You just have to make sure to get a bravo when you clear that block. Easier said than done, I know...

Or that your stack is in such a way that it doesn't mess things up. If you had it four rows high (in normal-sized terms) with the same two columns clear for all rows, it'd simply reduce it to a stack two rows high, with the same two columns clear.

[Rosti LFC]

One thing is sure, we need a lot of training to finish one day the SHIRASE..


Shirase has 3 previews, and most importantly a hold box. I'd imagine the ability to hold pieces would make it an awful lot easier.

[Amnesia]

Finally :


Me : 203 (after more than 10 attempts)

Bou : 136 (first attempt of his life)

Gaby : 145 (first attempt of his life as well)

[Taratang]

One thing is sure, we need a lot of training to finish one day the SHIRASE..

Shirase has 3 previews, and most importantly a hold box. I'd imagine the ability to hold pieces would make it an awful lot easier.It certainly helps with clean stacking when you're already comfortable with the speed, but it's too much to think about once you reach the shortest lock delay you can handle, at least in my experience...

[colour_thief]

My experience is similar to Taratang's. Though, the extra previews do help a little even when used in a basic, linear, TAP-like fashion. You normally know where to place something before it's on screen, and now you don't have to wait for it to spawn before thinking of the next piece.

[herc]

i had a lucky run, and also planning with the preview helped ALOT:


http://www.coreloop.com/dump/herc_big_mode_best.png

[Poochy]

Looks like I take the lead... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/BigMaster.png

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif And I take the lead !


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif no..it is cgwg with 366..

[Rosti LFC]

Improvement for me: 312 @ 3:43:86


Nothing notable (except a silver SK) and I didn't pass anyone, so I won't upload the screen-shot.

[Caithness]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t251/keisunesu/0001.png

[Amnesia]

lv. 367 grad 1 @ 5:39:93


It is the last one I do in my life without the Hold.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I've added it, but is the time correct? 4:39 seems a lot better suited.

[Bou]

[Amnesia]

Player           Grade   Level  Time
1.  Amnesia           1      367    5:39:93
2.  cgwg              1      363    4:17:58
3.  Poochy            2      346    4:06:03


It is 5:03:93 for me..

Sorry! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif It is not very fast as well..

[Amnesia]

mfm005 : lv 341 04:01:06 grad 2

[Caithness]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t251/keisunesu/0007.png

Slightly better.

[statikeffeck]

i got up to about Level 105 with 20G and Big Mode. I should try just Big Mode next.

[Amnesia]

I am still the first so I prefer to show at least the screenshot..

I agree I am very slow, sometimes, I think more than 4 sec for one tetriminos..

[gila]

had a little luck today, set a new personal best:


http://gila.deathmask.net/tetris/tap_bigmode_071120.png

[Amnesia]

WHO HO HO !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

[jujube]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5664/big353tt4.png

[jujube]

cheat codes for MAME


Player 1 Big Mode Cheat

:tgm2p:00000000:06064BA5:00000042:FFFFFFFF:P1 Big Mode
:tgm2p:00010000:06064BF8:00000002:FFFFFFFF:P1 Big Mode

Player 2 Big Mode Cheat
:tgm2p:00000000:06064F59:00000042:FFFFFFFF:P2 Big Mode
:tgm2p:00010000:06064FAC:00000002:FFFFFFFF:P2 Big Mode

Rosti - can you add these to the front page? they save you the trouble of exiting to the title screen after every game to enter LLLLDCBA again.


edit: almost forgot, you can play big+death with these codes

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7139/bigdeath133to4.jpg

doubles mode is screwy though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[colour_thief]

I hooked TAP back up and decided to warm up with some Big Mode.


Grade 1

Level 406

4:31:31

[jujube]

nice ct

[Amnesia]

I hooked TAP back up and decided to warm up with some Big Mode.

Grade 1
Level 406
4:31:31



OH LA VACHE..

[colour_thief]

I just got 404 in 4:15 now, you guys have to shape up. I had gold SK, and silver CO, it was sweet.


I really love going for tetrises. Because the mode is so limited, you have to play defensively. But, if you focus on remembering the piece history, you can time things so that you are ready for a tetris when the I piece is most likely. If you're not ready for a tetris and you get an I piece, it's best to clear about 3 lines so that you will be ready for the next I piece.


At the slightest hint of danger, it is best to ignore tetrises until you stabilize your screen. But it is still very possible to get some risk-free tetrises. Using this strategy, I usually get silver SK in the first section. Sometimes even gold SK.


It's lots of fun because no other mode stresses the player's randomizer awareness like this.

[Amnesia]

c_t you performed those few 400+ on TAP isn't it ? Not on TI ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[colour_thief]

Yes of course. And I have passed 400 3 times so far.

[Rosti LFC]

Mfm's newest record added.

I might start playing this mode again...

[gila]

just played it a bit. only one good run. got silver AC, gold SK, silver CO, pretty cool. too bad i died so foolishly of one stupid mistake, so this won't enter the ranking table, but what the hell, i'm bored so i'm posting a screenshot:

http://gila.nin.ru/tetris/tap_big_sucks.png

[rednefed]

I don't think I've even broken level 200 yet on big mode. Items or no items, I always die around 150.

[DeHackEd]

Level 408 in 4:08.20

Medals: Silver CO, bronze AC, bronze SK, Gold ST (meaningless)

Lucky: Yes

[K]

375

[mushroom]

A big+20G clear for TAP Master: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJrXLntEjgs

[Rosti LFC]

Level 408 in 4:08.20

Medals: Silver CO, bronze AC, bronze SK, Gold ST (meaningless)

Lucky: Yes

The grade being 1 I assume?

[DeHackEd]

Yeah, it's a '1' (http://dhe.execulink.com_3A3000/tapbig408.jpg)

[rednefed]

In light of the BIG mode thread in the general forum: second try today
http://defender.arcimpulse.com/TC/tgm20008.png
287 @ 3:34:35
Silver SK + CO, and one bravo.

[TWF]

grade 3, level 240 in 03:19:06

gold ST and bronze CO

[Amnesia]

tiny counter offensive with my paddle :
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1934/big435.jpg

No way to be consistent with that mode..After 40 min, I perform this record and my 2nd best was only 272..
I recorded it, but with the whole crappy games before..sorry..

[Ai]

How is the leaderboard ordered? What takes priority after grade. Is it mix between level and time or am I missing something? If level takes priority after grade then there as some corrections to be made. Also Caithness is not aligned with the rest of the names. ^^

Feels a little easier than TGM Big Mode, but it's much harder to get higher grades.

[/url]

Played some Normal Mode Big Mode too. And seeing as there is no thread for this I chose to post over here for the moment. After playing a few games this is my best so far:

[url=http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=154014.png] (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55967758.png)

[Rosti LFC]

What you were missing was that rednefed was just in the completely wrong place. Everything else was perfectly in order (grade, then highest level).

[Ai]

Switch Herc and Radish too and it suddenly all makes sence! ^^

As for a TAP Normal Big Mode leaderboard let's say that whoever finishes the game first gets the privilege to start a thread!

[Budster]

Grade: 4
Level: 131
Time: 1:53:23
Bronze CO

[Caithness]

Grade 1
Level 410
Time 04:56:98
Score 87386
Gold ST
Bronze SK
Silver CO

(LTAP DS does count, right?)

[colour_thief]

(LTAP DS does count, right?)

Not quite yet, but when LTAP can generate replays that playback identically in TAP I'd take no issue with it. The tech for this is pretty much there, I'm hoping it shows up in the next version.

[Caithness]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t251/keisunesu/0000-1.png

I do believe this puts me in first place. I don't think I've ever been at the top of a leaderboard before.

[Amnesia]

oh..o_O

[Ai]

Amazing Caithness. Congrats with your first place! I should try and get grade 1. ^^

[cyberguile]

raaaah !
I did play a couple of games last week but didn't find the leaderboard.
Need to play it again, I got a better score than the one I got registered.

[Ai]

I'll try to help out orz with the board index ASAP. In the mean time try using the search function or browsing the competition forum. Most importatnt threads can be found on the first 2 pages. ^^

[mfm005]

mfm005 S1 491 5:29:26

[Ai]

Congrats with the S rank and taking back first place. Great to have you back!!

[rednefed]

Oh, why not.
http://defender.arcimpulse.com/TC/0005.png

1, 415 @ 4:51:28

[Ai]

I'll join you guys, however still no grade 1.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9561/332kp.jpg

I may give it another try later this week.

[mfm005]

mfm005 S1 503 5:30:51

[Caithness]

Oh dang, I thought I was going to be the first one to make it to S1.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9002997/0000.png

[nahucirujano]

TAP Grade 2
Level 329 in 03:48:20

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/3787/tgm2bigmasterconverted.jpg

[Ai]

Nice for a first entry over here! Glad to see you playing TAP modes. ^^

[nahucirujano]

Nice for a first entry over here! Glad to see you playing TAP modes. ^^

Ai, my friend, It`s been a long time since the last time we talked ;)
Haha, it`s true, so many Special Ti and Sudden Ti...... It`s time to work on the others TGMs...xD

[mfm005]

Oh dang, I thought I was going to be the first one to make it to S1.

and too late for S2 too :)

mfm005 S2 554 5:55:08

[Ai]

It's admirable that you keep playing this mode. ^^

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7499/0012k.png

Could have been a little better.

[Ai]

Not bad!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4365/aitapmasterbigmode2344.jpg

A small improvement. Still no grade 1, however I was able to get Gold CO again. ^^

[mfm005]

mfm005 S5 632 6:54:18
http://mfm005.free.fr/tgm/tgm2%20big.png

[Amnesia]

ha ha ha cette branlé...
Je pensais que tu avais tous laché..

[cyberguile]

master mfm is back :)

[nahucirujano]

TGM2: TAP (Big Mode) Grade 1 - 393 in 04:25:85

Here´s the replay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxyZfa1Uc_g

[Caithness]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9002997/599.png

Still second place, but I've pulled way ahead of the rest of you slackers.

[mfm005]

Very good Caithness!

mfm005 S5 699 7:10:01 (05/04/11)
http://mfm005.free.fr/tgm/tgm2%20big.png