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M.Bison
12-31-2007, 09:37 AM
(Kind of a double post here, sorry guys)


I have not been playing that much Tetris the last 2 months so this week I decided to start training again.


After breaking my 40 line record on Tetris Splash today (45.?? seconds), I decided to hit up lockjaw and test my luck. I manage to get around twenty 32-33 seconds runs in under half an hour - things where looking good!


After much dizziness from over concentrating and beer consumption I got this:


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-12-31 at 16:25

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)

(grav=Naive, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=116 ms Instant, shadow=Faint color, next=3 pieces)


Played for 0:30.91

Played 104 tetrominoes (201.83 per minute)

Pressed 323 keys (3.10 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 8; double: 1; triple: 2; home run: 6; T single: 0; T double: 0; T triple: 0)

Sent 33 garbage (64.00 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 10600


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

- Jono

DIGITAL
12-31-2007, 09:55 AM
You managed to surpass all our records in the Lockjaw thread around twenty times in half an hour!? That is some shocking consistency. Geez, the rest of us needs to concentrate more.


Congrats on the milestone! And keep up the speed and break 30 seconds next time. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

And for the rest of us...I always knew a break is the secret to breaking a personal record.

jujube
12-31-2007, 10:04 AM
And for the rest of us...I always knew a break is the secret to breaking a personal record.

easier said than done (taking a break that is (and, well, breaking a record too)).

caffeine
12-31-2007, 09:12 PM
nice. but i, for one, wanna see polly-esque (http://www.bofunk.com/video/3701/quick_quadra.html) "over the air" hand and monitor video. =] pls


not because i don't believe you or anything, but because 10+ kps is gonna look effin sweet.

Rezmason
12-31-2007, 09:25 PM
Has anyone tried to sponsor you guys? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

tepples
12-31-2007, 10:18 PM
not because i don't believe you or anything, but because 10+ kps is gonna look effin sweet.

True.




But in games other than Tetris, 10 keys per second isn't exactly impressive. See 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lV011tqQmc) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF1R94-X2M) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOdzpsCkcM0) and Quasar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-9fm5GM-E) and try to even count the arrows. (The girl in the lower right corner appears every time the player makes 250 consecutive perfect steps.) I count an average of roughly 15 kps over 112 seconds for the 0x1311 videos.

Rosti LFC
12-31-2007, 11:24 PM
But in games other than Tetris, 10 keys per second isn't exactly impressive. See 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lV011tqQmc) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF1R94-X2M) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOdzpsCkcM0) and Quasar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-9fm5GM-E) and try to even count the arrows.



That's with 4 buttons too. Tetris usually uses 5.

DIGITAL
12-31-2007, 11:32 PM
But in games other than Tetris, 10 keys per second isn't exactly impressive. See 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lV011tqQmc) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF1R94-X2M) and 0x1311 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOdzpsCkcM0) and Quasar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-9fm5GM-E) and try to even count the arrows.


That's with 4 buttons too. Tetris usually uses 5.

Furthermore, those are predefined keypresses, unlike tetris where just about every game is never the same.

M.Bison
01-01-2008, 03:15 AM
Congrats on the milestone! And keep up the speed and break 30 seconds next time
Cheers, will do.
but i, for one, wanna see polly-esque "over the air" hand and monitor video. =] pls
No worries, can I borrow your video camera? Just email it to me http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif .
not because i don't believe you or anything, but because 10+ kps is gonna look effin sweet.

I have zero video software on my CPU, give me a week or so to go over a friends house to make a vid - I kept the replay.


- Jono

K
01-01-2008, 10:45 AM
wow ! impressive ! that is very good ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Amnesia
01-01-2008, 05:31 PM
Moi il me fait peur jago ce gars.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

30 sec c'est fou..

evybabee
01-02-2008, 06:20 PM
congrats bison.. looks like 2008 will be a good tetris year for you http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

now you just have to work on your splash marathon score...

DIGITAL
01-02-2008, 09:50 PM
congrats bison.. looks like 2008 will be a good tetris year for you http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

now you just have to work on your splash marathon score...


Hehe, Jono is more of a speed specialist. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

jujube
01-02-2008, 11:35 PM
this pic still cracks me up.

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/images/b/bb/Challenge.JPG

but a couple days ago Jono comes back to tetris zone out of nowhere and grabs the top position in sprint.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2710/tzsprintmk7.jpg
i'm actually #9 because kbr is on there twice http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

M.Bison
01-03-2008, 04:30 AM
now you just have to work on your splash marathon score...
LOL, you cant be serious? I dont like wasting my time sitting there all day trying to do odd stacks that work around splash's odd scoring system.....T-spins on the last line of the level or whatever - thats not tetris in my books.
this pic still cracks me up.

Cracks me up too, I only ever played 2 games http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif .


- Jono

Deets
01-03-2008, 07:11 AM
Furthermore, those are predefined keypresses, unlike tetris where just about every game is never the same.

Yeah, that's true, but what about something like this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=soVUuW3LPs4)? Note that the player is using s-random, which randomizes the position of the notes on an individual basis throughout the entire song - for the original chart, check this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A3gfL8n5vlU).

DIGITAL
01-03-2008, 07:30 AM
Furthermore, those are predefined keypresses, unlike tetris where just about every game is never the same.
Yeah, that's true, but what about something like this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=soVUuW3LPs4)? Note that the player is using s-random, which randomizes the position of the notes on an individual basis throughout the entire song - for the original chart, check this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A3gfL8n5vlU).Hehe, I'm not saying that performances like that aren't possible with randomness. There are always people capable of demonstrating such feats. I'm just pointing out the huge difficulty difference between predictability and randomness. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Reminds me of SRS vs. ARS... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

colour_thief
01-03-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm just pointing out the huge difficulty difference between predictability and randomness. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif


I think there's a little more to it. I enjoy music games considerably, but even with individual notes randomized I still think they are different beasts. When you get, say, the T block in tetris, you have to do a lot more than press the "place T block" button. You've got to evaluate what moves are possible, decide which move gives you the strongest position, and then execute some input sequence. Music games and tetris are both very fun to play, but they're very different challenges.


No matter how many crazy stepmania videos tepples links, it doesn't mean a human could process tetris pieces as fast as those arrows. If you really want to keep the music analogy tepples, I'd say fast tetris is most like improvising with a band over a frequently changing and sometimes unfamiliar chord sequence. That is to say, a chord sequence called out "just in time" by a clinically insane jazz musician who eats augmented 13ths for breakfast. Sure you've got a few solid riffs you can use here and there, but much of the time you'd be struggling to find something that sounds appropriate.

timc
01-03-2008, 08:47 AM
well said

jujube
01-03-2008, 09:04 AM
yes, good point ct. i guess that's why those music games are so fast paced. i still prefer the combination of fast reaction time and somewhat-difficult decision making tetris forces on you.

evybabee
01-03-2008, 10:51 AM
ok i get it. you don't like splash. my mistake...

Kitaru
01-03-2008, 12:02 PM
He probably just doesn't like Marathon.

herc
01-07-2008, 06:06 PM
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Happiest girl I ever knew

Happiest girl I ever knew


Wanted to feel the joy

Flow between our lips

Wanted to feel the joy

Flow between our hips


Happiest girl I ever knew

Why do you smile the smile you do


Happiest girl I ever knew


Wanted to feel the joy

Pass between our eyes

Wanted to feel the joy

Pass between our thighs


And I would have to pinch her

Just to see if she was real

Just to watch the smile fade away

And see the pain she'd feel


Wanted to feel her joy

Feel it deep within

Wanted to feel her joy

Penetrate my skin


Happiest girl I ever knew

Why do you smile the smile you do

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the topic title just triggered a song text by DM in my brain. enjoy the lyrics if you like, otherwise just ignore my posting.

DIGITAL
04-22-2008, 03:08 AM
YAY, I've finally broken the 200 TPM barrier! I've been doing a lot of manual locking training starting at 500+ Ti Sudden speeds and have been getting more consistent in reflex and concentration. In one lucky run, I managed to go from level 700 to 800 in 00:21:80 with 74 tetrominoes, which equates to 203.67 TPM!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXrf6LURp58

jujube
04-22-2008, 03:21 AM
dang, nice run O_o