Tetris Party Tournament (Wii)

[m:)]

Sometimes I see my opponent placing their first few pieces before I even get mine,

i've seen a lot of that myself.
you see them dropping, then you start and they have four pieces placed.

a couple times I have lost only to found I won. In these cases I do feel like I should have knocked them out.

Started getting the DC's last night tho. I hate that.

I wonder if the tourney will be good enough to keep me from grabbing excitebots on day one. I smell a little less tetris when that game launches.

[Shibby]

I'm on vacation right now but I will be getting home tomorrow night and I will try and get my rank up then. I'd like to think I'm not too bad at battle... Jujube might have something else to say about that tho. But 5500 seems pretty easy to reach. I'm 6500 in TDS

[edhuge]

What's up everyone!! I just had a baby, so haven't been playing much. My Mii is a white guy with a black ski cap and big dark sunglasses... Looks like a dude who'd break into a liquor store.

I just played for about an hour and had a disconnect in about 1 in 4 people. This is sad. I haven't seen anyone who can t-spin or has been a challenge yet. I'm at around 6300 and have lost twice.

Please post pictures of cheaters. I will try to do the same.

PS... Like Bill said, I'm sure your score updates only when you do it on your own. My regular rating is at 9999, but I got that high last fall when there wasn't anyone decent playing. I'm around a 9000 now, but it still shows 9999.

[iphys]

Did you play on the first night? I think I might have lost a game against you, because I definitely remember a scary looking T-spinner dude matching that description.

[m:)]

man, today has actually been hard on me, i'm down about 300 points.

[EnFuego]

I played about 20 games and half of them were disconnects. It takes too long for a match to load up. They could have atleast let you do three matches against the same opponent. But I need to deal with all the frustration for those damn wii points.

[iphys]

I haven't had any problems with the wi-fi in the past day -- just one prick who I'm 99% sure purposely DCed on me at the end of an epic 3-minute battle, because garbage was flying back and forth with no lag the whole match, and right when he was sitting at the top of the screen with 5 garbage lines in his garbage indicator, he magically vanished into thin air. Grrrr!

[m:)]

ok, so when yo see your score really fast, then it goes to the lobby you do not get any points even though you see your name on top for that instent. those are the DC's who do it quick

i noticed i had the same score after four wins.

and there's a kid that was at 6800 who dc's against me in a game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[Billmaan]

ok, so when yo see your score really fast, then it goes to the lobby you do not get any points even though you see your name on top for that instent. those are the DC's who do it quickI'm pretty sure that's the game's fault, not the other player's.

[iphys]

Yeah, I've taken to never hitting the quit button, because I always get DCed the second the other player hits quit, and I'm thinking the point screen might be coming up for one player before the other player and getting interrupted for the second player if the first player hits quit too soon. Sometimes you do manage to get the points before the DC screen comes up. I keep an eye on the points awarded to see if they go to zero. One time the sound of the points moving over actually got stuck playing continuously when it happened, but fortunately I got all my points even though the other player's stopped with 3 points still to be deducted.

Did the kid in the 6800's look like Wil Wheaton? I don't know what the rating was of the good player that DCed on me, but that's kind of who he reminded me of.

[edhuge]

iphys - Yes... I did play the first night for an hour or so. I got a half hour in yesterday and an hour in this afternoon. I have this next week off for maternity time, so I expect to see all you guys in battle.

[iphys]

Yeah, I want a rematch!

[durga2112]

Do you guys actually do T-spins in battles? Like, deliberately setting them up? I still can't do that fast enough to really be of any use in a battle (unless the extra garbage sent really makes that much pf a difference). My strategy is basically to set up Tetrises as fast as I possibly can, which usually works pretty well for me - I've got over 5500 points now, and last night I managed to beat someone with something like 6700 points, which felt pretty good (although I think the same guy beat me once or twice as well http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif ).

[iphys]

Yeah, but not exclusively. You just have to practice doing them playing against the fastest level of the cpu you're comfortable with. It's good to set them up on top of your garbage column so you can back-to-back T-spins with tetrises.

[EnFuego]

@durga: t-spins are sometimes good to use in battles in your volleying back and forth. If you set up a bunch of rows for a tetris you run the risk of not being quick to clear the blocks away when the whole appears under your stack. With a t-spin setup you only need to clear a couple rows and then your are open to send the blocks the other person gave you back at them.

So when it says disconnect that means that the other person left? Because if that is the case I should practice not trying to make the other person think they have a chance to win

[iphys]

If there's no lag and then it says disconnect, I think that means the other person wussed out. If there's lag and it says disconnect, it's probably an issue with the wi-fi.

Some people I haven't been sure about facing again after a disconnect, so a few times I have made a point of only sending 4 or 5 lines of garbage at a time till they're more than half way up the screen and then slamming them with 9 or 10 lines in the hope that the loss hits them unexpectedly before they have time to disconnect. I think some people are still fast enough to disconnect after a loss though.

[m:)]

ok, so when yo see your score really fast, then it goes to the lobby you do not get any points even though you see your name on top for that instent. those are the DC's who do it quickI'm pretty sure that's the game's fault, not the other player's.


i'm thinking if it was the games fault i would expect it to also happen when i loose, so far i've lost all the points i've lost but i have not won all of the points i have won.


Did the kid in the 6800's look like Wil Wheaton? I don't know what the rating was of the good player that DCed on me, but that's kind of who he reminded me of.

i didn't know who wil wheaton was so i googled him. if you mean a young one, then yes he did actually.

http://www.triviatribute.com/images4/wilwheaton3.jpg

[iphys]

On the first night I lost a game and got DCed before the point screen came up, so I managed to escape losing any points. There was a lot of lag, so I suppose it's possible the other guy thought he was about to lose and DCed having no idea he'd won, but I imagine the DC happened because of the lag. I wonder if it tends to be that the point screen comes up first for the player who lost while the info is being transmitted to the winner, and then if the loser hits quit too soon after losing their points, the winner gets DCed and never gets their points. It often seems like I just barely get my points before the DC screen comes up, whereas it should only be coming up after you hit quit.

[m:)]

that is an interesting point, i would ass u me that at that point (game over) the players are separate and the connection doesn't matter.

but man if they are loosing the points but your not winning the points thats messed up.

[Billmaan]

I wonder if it tends to be that the point screen comes up first for the player who lost while the info is being transmitted to the winner, and then if the loser hits quit too soon after losing their points, the winner gets DCed and never gets their points.This was precisely my theory as well.

[m:)]

i just played an hour solid. i lost two matches. I gained 60 points total.

[t-block]

Heh...this is harder than I thought. There's actually some good competition out there. I'm hovering at around 5600 right now after a few hours of playing. DCing hasn't been tooooo bad for me. Maybe I'm just playing at times when they're not on xP

[iphys]

The wi-fi was kind of laggy today -- seemed like 1 in 10 games my opponent would freeze up and then 20 seconds later the disconnection screen would finally pop up. Had one game like that against Mizar, but then we never got reconnected again.

[EnFuego]

Whenever I play I have about half my matches disconnect. Could this be due to my connection? I never have lagged on the wifi battles which confuses me.

[m:)]

we're all getting lots of disconnects. it was bad for me yesterday afternoon, like 80%. then last night i didn't get any.

[edhuge]

Wil Wheaton... I've played this guy about 10 times, and he disconnects every time when he gets close to getting beat. So frustrating!!! Also, the guy who I think is in first place, Davey?, is a compulsive cheater too. If he's the one with no eyes, bald head, and a giant grin, he's disconnected on me a several times - A few in the tourney along with a bunch in regular play over the last couple weeks.

[iphys]

There's only 10 people rated over 6800 right now, so the cheaters are going to make themselves very conspicuous if anyone loses to them, sees their rating, and then beats them only to watch them DC. I don't think I've played Davey, because I don't remember any bald guys with a high rating. I think TNC is a guy with long hair, because I beat him when he was over 7300 and then he was over 7400 on the leaderboard a little later. I know Wil Wheaton isn't Deasean because I've seen his Mii in some youtube videos. I think Shabz is Shabado from GameFaqs, and he says his Mii has brown hair and brown goatee, and I'm pretty sure I played him when he was in the high 6000s. That leaves Ephraim, Taylor, Pat, or Jel as the likely Wil Wheaton punk, but they're all rated fairly similarly, so it's hard to say which one it is.

[m:)]

with Wil Wheaton, first i beat him and he DC'd, a few games later he sat again and i recognized him only to lose the match. that's when I saw he was at 6800.


man, I'm only facing good players tonight. no DC's, just losing points left and right. can't get over 6k. i need to log more time. an hour a day isn't cutting it.

[iphys]

Is it possible to avoid playing a DCer once you recognize them by never hitting start?

[durga2112]

I don't think so. The match automatically starts after the timer counts down.

[t-block]

Well there's one thing you can do I guess. If you keep coming up against him, just let the timer start the match and go get a drink to annoy him lol.

[iphys]

Wow, I was just on there, and it was like a Twilight Zone episode. I was at 8063, then had a DC happen with 2 points still left to be awarded and the point scrolling sound playing continuously. Then I lost a game to a Mii with some black headwear that was rated 5000 to go down to 7971, so it was true that I really only got 8 of 10 points from the previous match. Then I went to play another game and the screen froze up for a couple seconds at "REA" while the other player started playing their pieces. After I won the game I somehow wound up with 8083 points like the 100 point loss had never happened. Huh? Could the 5000-rated player have been some sort of hacker or something?

[herc]

what do you think? isthere theoretically any acceptable solution against disconnecters ?

* punishing disconnection with point loss? of course, this would cause an outcry by people who get randomly disconnected by their service provider or by the servers of tetrisparty..

* detecting powerdown of the wii by the powerswitch on the wiimote ?

* a system that lets rate a gamer as unfair ( you mostly can feel that someone disconnected because he was to loose, and i think you often distinguish fair players who just have shitty internet from DCers) (rating after game ended - redflagging or something can of course cause abuse by shitheads)

* ???

tetrisparty should get patched. all in all this DC problem is a serious gameplay bug.

[Kitaru]

* punishing disconnection with point loss? of course, this would cause an outcry by people who get randomly disconnected by their service provider or by the servers of tetrisparty..
Tetris DS starts each match by silently deducting the appropriate amount of points from each player. If a player disconnects intentionally, it counts as a loss for them. I think it might return that credit if the player is accidentally dropped. However, I suppose someone could unplug their router... so perhaps not. At any rate, this sort of scoring business should be taken care of in part before the match and in its entirety at the moment the match concludes. There should not be an intermediate step that facilitates cheating an opponent out of their rating points, which is what it sounds like is happening here.

[Rosti LFC]

I say there should be a point loss. It's the fairest way. Sure, it's annoying on Tetris DS when I accidentally get disconnected, but I think the annoyance is far smaller than it would be if there was no penalty for disconnecting.

The Tetris DS disconnect system can be exploited in such a way as you can make yourself disconnect, but for your game make it seem as if all your opponents disconnected, meaning you take the full win even if you'd already lost (assuming 4-player).

[durga2112]

Then I went to play another game and the screen froze up for a couple seconds at "REA" while the other player started playing their pieces.

I had that happen too. I was against a mii that looked like a clone trooper, and the screen froze at "R" for a while. When I could finally start placing my pieces, my opponent suddenly had "earrings" that weren't there before. What the hell? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif That match ended with a disconnect.

[m:)]

i had half a S appear a few times.
with the DC thing, I don't care so much if they don't loose their points.
it's just that you don't win any. you should at least score a win when the opponent DCs.

it pisses me off when you see the screen telling you that you won only to get zero points.

i never get DC'd when I am about to loose points.

I do wonder what is happening in those games where you get beat but the other player keeps playing for 30 seconds or more.

[durga2112]

Just got my email re my points for the third tournament. Wahoo - World of Goo tonight! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif My boys are going to be so excited - we've been talking about it so much over the last few months, even my 20-month-old says "goo" when he sees pictures of the game. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[m:)]

world of goo is just "ok" imvho. i never got hooked on it.
I got it in october and didn't finish until january.
chapter 4 is great fun tho.


groovin' blocks is great

bit-trip:beat is pretty good.

artstyle cubello is great as well.

[iphys]

Yeah, I prefer Bit Trip Beat and Groovin' Blocks to World of Goo. World of Goo is a good game, but the gameplay just isn't addictive.

[m:)]

chapter 4 on goo hooked me, then the game was over.


excitebots!

i'm done with the tourney i'd rather have fun http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
this game kicks ass

[Kitaru]

Gradius Rebirth and Bit Trip Beat have been my tournament purchases so far. I need to get a bigger SD card before I can pick up much else, haha.

[zarvok]

Yeah... I haven't had much time lately and I just started playing last night. The disconnects were ultra frustrating. Put in a few hours and got up to 5400 or something, but it should have taken much less time.

I also got my third tourney prize (even though I had no time and skipped the last part of it, I ended at 120ish). Spent mine on super punch out on the VC... the screenshots of the new wii punchout have me feeling nostalgic

[iphys]

I still have a NES and Tyson's Punch-Out and a SNES and Super Punch-Out. If they screw up the Wii version I'm going to cry, because that's the only game I'm really looking forward to on the Wii right now.

[m:)]

pac man is great with my sanwa stick!

[Jeff]

lol, so my girlfriend was playing on my tetris party to rack up some points...and a guy with 8600+ comes in and wrecks her. Hi, Iphys!....

Then she re-matched him and beat him...sorry about the 112 point loss (!)

Short of TC'ers, we haven't seen people do t-spins during play that effectively =T sorta scary when we hear the sound and get 4 lines of garbage lol




==========


So my boyfriend wanted to play a few matches. he goes "let me play a few but if it's iphys then you're taking over"
so I go to the kitchen to throw something. I hear a ding, the one where you match w/someone else.
he yells out my name, and says "come here, I wish i was joking!"

gg's sir

[Kitaru]

pac man is great with my sanwa stick!
Haha, I totally agree. Pac-Man Championship Edition with a Sanwa is "da proest," as they say in some circles. :p

Namco should port PMCE to some platforms other than X360. Maybe they'll put it on a Namco Museum at some point like they did for Pac-Man Versus -- which made the jump from a GCN exclusive that required a GBA -> GCN connection to being available on the DS Namco Museum.

Anyway, to get back on topic, when does this round end? I haven't been playing at all on account of school -- not to mention that Tetris Party has low priority in the list of things I do spend my free time on. :s

[Lenna]

It ends on the 30th. Though knowing how the tournament's been, it tends to sometimes end a few hours earlier or so. (Or maybe its cause I live in the same location where the company is, and they figure everyone is to the east of Hawaii?)

I dunno. I really don't like this round, theres too much 'luck' involved. Luck with the pieces, luck with getting paired with easy opponents, luck with even just not getting paired up with too many gods (had a bad streak with some random 8400 rank person who could've been iphys - though I managed to beat a 8000 rank once, somehow)

But yea, I hate the ranking system. It literally discourages you from challenging people of a higher rank than you, since low and high rank people are worth the same. Thus, my theory of how it works:

The wifi rating is basically dependent on your % chance of winning a match against any random person. What percentage corresponds to what wi-fi score? I decided to try writing a small program in C to answer that, and my results are the following:

0.000000: 499
0.010000: 498
0.020000: 549
0.030000: 1050
0.040000: 1319
0.050000: 1536
0.060000: 1765
0.070000: 1947
0.080000: 2105
0.090000: 2256
0.100000: 2396
0.110000: 2562
0.120000: 2710
0.130000: 2849
0.140000: 2966
0.150000: 3077
0.160000: 3201
0.170000: 3304
0.180000: 3394
0.190000: 3500
0.200000: 3586
0.210000: 3697
0.220000: 3785
0.230000: 3861
0.240000: 3935
0.250000: 4013
0.260000: 4066
0.270000: 4149
0.280000: 4211
0.290000: 4277
0.300000: 4337
0.310000: 4398
0.320000: 4469
0.330000: 4524
0.340000: 4562
0.350000: 4616
0.360000: 4674
0.370000: 4722
0.380000: 4777
0.390000: 4827
0.400000: 4870
0.410000: 4927
0.420000: 4963
0.430000: 4983
0.440000: 5016
0.450000: 5048
0.460000: 5068
0.470000: 5104
0.480000: 5149
0.490000: 5199
0.500000: 5257
0.510000: 5289
0.520000: 5346
0.530000: 5379
0.540000: 5425
0.550000: 5453
0.560000: 5487
0.570000: 5510
0.580000: 5543
0.590000: 5582
0.600000: 5609
0.610000: 5658
0.620000: 5715
0.630000: 5764
0.640000: 5815
0.650000: 5879
0.660000: 5946
0.670000: 5991
0.680000: 6033
0.690000: 6099
0.700000: 6154
0.710000: 6208
0.720000: 6297
0.730000: 6348
0.740000: 6423
0.750000: 6493
0.760000: 6562
0.770000: 6628
0.780000: 6719
0.790000: 6808
0.800000: 6893
0.810000: 6986
0.820000: 7097
0.830000: 7198
0.840000: 7306
0.850000: 7430
0.860000: 7520
0.870000: 7647
0.880000: 7773
0.890000: 7932
0.900000: 8087
0.910000: 8239
0.920000: 8402
0.930000: 8559
0.940000: 8744
0.950000: 8949
0.960000: 9173
0.970000: 9398
0.980000: 9590
0.990000: 9877
1.000000: 9999


How to read it: The left number represents the chance you have to win a match. The right number is an approximate expectation of what you can expect your wifi rank to be, assuming a large number of matches. To compute these numbers, the algorithm was something like:

- Iterate for each percentage value from 0 to 100%:
  - Do 1000 iterations of the following:
    - Using the ranking table at http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=946468&topic=46500891 , simulate playing 10,000 matches over and over with the given % chance of winning, and determine their ending score.
  - Take the average of the iterations and spit that out as the ranking


(Yes, I know 0 and 1% winning chance are below 500, which I don't think is possible. I figure its just an unlikely border case)

Anyways, its interesting to note that if you're 50-50 on winning, your average expected rating is really 5250, not 5000. I'm not sure why this is the case, but it might be something to do with the fact that 4500-4999 gives you more for a win than a loss, or something.

But yea, I guess my other point is that it doesn't seem like theres too many people playing online for the tournament - and as a result, it feels like sometimes I'm playing against the same people over and over.

Just need a little more patience before I ever hit top 100...

[Kitaru]

Well, there can't be _too_ much luck with the pieces. It is a bag randomizer, after all. Although I'd agree things are at their fairest when both players get an identical sequence of pieces, you're still pretty well off with an identical distribution.

As for the rating system... I feel you there. It is a total joke. Look at Tetris DS or BlockBox if you want to see an example of a rating system done right. Things are supposed to be balanced based on the current ratings of both players.

Thanks for reminding me about how stupid the rating system is, haha. That pretty much cements my lack of interest in this round.

[iphys]

Hey, Jeff. Is your girlfriend in the 6000's? I was on there for 3 hours straight last night and lost 3 or 4 games, so I don't exactly recall now.

People's ratings will probably be slightly higher than the expectation, since you can update for your maximum ever rating rather than having to go by whatever final rating you get. Even a player that wins half their games could probably random-walk their way above 5500 at some point with a string of better-than-average games.

[Jeff]

Hey, Jeff. Is your girlfriend in the 6000's? I was on there for 3 hours straight last night and lost 3 or 4 games, so I don't exactly recall now.

People's ratings will probably be slightly higher than the expectation, since you can update for your maximum ever rating rather than having to go by whatever final rating you get. Even a player that wins half their games could probably random-walk their way above 5500 at some point with a string of better-than-average games.


She played you 4 times...won three of them. She was using my avatar at the time, but yeah, we just hovered around 6000. It was strange, she'd be so focused on beating you that her concentration was almost zen-like...then lose to people who were in 6k-7k range: just because it wasn't your avatar she was playing against

We (ok by We I meant my gf and her alone...she tests her tetris skill with professional pride =T) wanted to ensure prizes, but it feels like even 6k isn't enough of a guarantee, what with all the stiff competition that's been online as of late. But man, iphys, to win one game gets you 8 points at that level? After last night, did you come out ahead or behind what you started with that day? Because we were losing 1 game out of every three at 6000, and we basically didn't move up in rank at all for a couple of hours, but a loss at your level means that you'd have to win the next 12 or so, no? o_O

[iphys]

There's actually someone else on there that I saw a couple days ago with almost my identical Mii, so she's going to be disappointed if she faces that one. I don't know if it's just a coincidence or if that person was actually trying to look like my Mii for some reason. It's 7 points for a win and 112 points for a loss once you get to 8500, so you have to win 16 games for every loss to stay even. I finished down about 80 points last night -- not sure if it was because I was misdropping more than usual, or because the competition is improving.

[edhuge]

There's actually someone else on there that I saw a couple days ago with almost my identical Mii, so she's going to be disappointed if she faces that one. I don't know if it's just a coincidence or if that person was actually trying to look like my Mii for some reason. It's 7 points for a win and 112 points for a loss once you get to 8500, so you have to win 16 games for every loss to stay even. I finished down about 80 points last night -- not sure if it was because I was misdropping more than usual, or because the competition is improving.

I played that guy a few times today. He sucks. He disconnected on me after I beat him a few times.

[iphys]

Woohoo, I just got connected to Davey for the first time finally, and I actually managed to beat him and get my points. First I made him wait the whole countdown to punish him for his DCing ways. Then I avoided any T-spinning so he wouldn't suspect I had a chance of winning, and when I had a nice shaft of garbage I TSD-tetris-tetrised him so fast he never had a chance to DC on me in time if he tried. He was at 8510 points, and I knocked him down to 8398, assuming the point loss got registered on his console too while he was in the midst of trying to DC no doubt.

[Ed_]

Just found these forums, and had two things to say:

First, I'm incredibly impressed with some of the people who post here. Before playing online, I was the big Tetris fish in my small gaming pond. It's amazing to see how good some of you people are, and the different strategies being used in competition. So congrats to all of you who are better than (that's quite a few!) and thanks for showing me some new tricks while offering the occasional beatdown.

Second, glad to hear that some of the really talented people are also disappointed with the cheating taking place. I mean really, it's just a friggin' game: take your points when you win, and take your lumps when you lose! The worst part is seeing how many of the cheaters would be good players even without disconnecting to protect their scores. After a frustrating night of dropping about 200 points (in large part because of one or two people who would disconnecting before losing, costing me about a dozen games worth of wins over the past hour), I'm delighted to hear iphys' story.
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Here's hoping that 6742 is good enough for some Wii points, and that you all keep playing and enjoying the game long after the tournaments are done.
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Billmaan]

Woohoo, I just got connected to Davey for the first time finally, and I actually managed to beat him and get my points. First I made him wait the whole countdown to punish him for his DCing ways. Then I avoided any T-spinning so he wouldn't suspect I had a chance of winning, and when I had a nice shaft of garbage I TSD-tetris-tetrised him so fast he never had a chance to DC on me in time if he tried. He was at 8510 points, and I knocked him down to 8398, assuming the point loss got registered on his console too while he was in the midst of trying to DC no doubt.Apparently he's not just a cheater, he's a fool as well. He updated his leaderboard after that loss and recorded his new, lower rating.

[iphys]

Hey, Ed. Welcome to the boards!

Heh, heh, I can't believe he updated his rating. I wonder if he DCed part way through losing the points, because the numbers don't quite work out. If he'd won another game after losing to me, he would have been at 8408 instead of 8407, so maybe he DCed at the point where 103 of the 112 points had been deducted.

[Lenna]

Ugh. Davey. I wonder if he was the guy with a 8400-ish ranking I saw who managed to disconnect right before the points got awarded one time that I won. (And I got no points. Grrr.)

Yea. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one frustrated here. Is it just me, or is nearly no one ranked lower than a 5000 thats actively playing? If so. it would seem like everyone continuing to play would only drag each others' scores down.

Unfortunately, I still have RL stuff to finish, so I don't know if I want to invest a few more hours to try bump myself to the 6000s. It looks like a 6000 is good enough for top 100 right now (only 75 people at the moment are there), but then again you never know if there's 100s of people keeping their ranking secret until the final day to swarm the server with updates.

Yeah. This round just doesn't feel very fun.

[iphys]

Davey is a bald white guy with no eyes and a big grin with big white teeth if that helps. I have had two games disconnect after I've lost, but the last time that happened I was around 8100 (it was against a girl though). I assumed those disconnections happened due to lag because the other person was still playing after I lost, but lately it seems like almost every game I lose the other person plays on for 10 seconds afterwards without a disconnection happening. I also notice the games I play where the other person's screen freezes at some random time in the game (rather than suspiciously right as they're about to be topped out) sometimes I have to play on for over a minute now before the disconnection screen finally comes up, so I don't know if they changed the parameters for how much lag leads to a disconnection, or why it seems to be different the last few days.

I agree fewer sub-5000 players seem to be on there of late, so most games are probably leading to a reduction in points. Anyone holding out to update their ranking might find themselves in trouble. I found the competition the hardest the first night, then it seemed really easy the next few days, and now it seems like it has been getting gradually tougher again. At this rate, 6000 should be enough for top 100, and probably some people will be too oblivious to submit their confirmation codes, so even falling just outside the top 100 might be enough. In fact, there might not even be 100 people that bother to submit confirmation codes, so anyone who places anywhere in the top 1000 to get a confirmation code should try submitting it.

[t-block]

I stopped at around 6500 a few days ago. Just for a bit I thought the tournament organizers would be smart enough to punish DC'ers, but I guess that was stupid. It was fun for the first few days when there seemed to be a lot of people playing, but now it seems that every second person is a DC'er, and I really don't care enough to play anymore. I ran into Davey twice the other day... lost to him once, then won and got DC'd and that really killed my will to keep playing. Not to mention TP is far too slow of a game for me to enjoy as much as TOJ or other multiplayer SRS.

iphys, your story made me smile though. I really hope you take top score ;D

Also, hi Ed ^^

[EnFuego]

I currently have a 5800ish rating in 92nd and my rating is 100 above the 100th place guy. 6000 is in 73rd and I sincerely doubt 28 more people are going to be able to pass that with the lack of easy opponents still out there in 4 days. So 6000 should be safe. But, that still wont stop me from grinding it out the next couple days to get as high as I can. I was just waiting for all the easy competition to settle down and have all the good players come out and play http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif.

Does anyone else see themselves still playing Tetris party after the tournament is over? I cannot see myself playing that game much more and the huge frustration of all the cheaters in this tournament made me angry at TTC.

[Ed_]

Is there a way to know what the Mii of top players looks like? I've played against some really good people since getting Tetris Party, but have no idea how they match up with the rankings I see.


Not to mention TP is far too slow of a game for me to enjoy as much as TOJ or other multiplayer SRS.

What does TOJ and SRS stand for? TP doesn't seem too slow, but that depends on who I'm playing against. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Does anyone else see themselves still playing Tetris party after the tournament is over?

As a mediocre Tetris player with only basic technique, I do hope that Tetris Party keeps getting played once the tournaments are over. It's more fun playing against other people than on your own... and as long as there is competition available I'll still be dropping in for a match from time to time. That said, I'm worried that there won't be many "serious" players left for Tetris Party. That's a real shame because they are the most fun to be matched up against (losing means learning, and tough wins are the most gratifying).

[t-block]

SRS is just the rotation system that TP uses... Super Rotation System. TOJ is Tetris Online Japan... here's the thread. http://www.tetrisconcept.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1097 (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1097)

It seems like you're pretty new to the tetris scene, so maybe you've never played on a keyboard before. It takes a while to get used to, but I found it pretty easy to adapt to, and I know I have more fun in TOJ than I do at TP. TP is slow because of all the time between when you lockdown a piece and when you gain control of the next piece, and the time it takes to clear a line and stuff. I'm sure a lot of people are playing at the maximum speed the game allows. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PPCloc7Gxc&feature=related

[m:)]

there is also blokbox for online play.
we will see if 6000 is enough. i quit playing after getting DC'd on 80% of the time. too annoying and not worth $12
I stopped at 5996 and am at 70th right now. I haven't played in a week.

excitebots fwiw.

[durga2112]

Does anyone else see themselves still playing Tetris party after the tournament is over?

I'll still be playing it (though not as frequently), as it is the only console version of Tetris that I currently have, and I still have quite a bit of achievements (or whatever they're called) to unlock. Plus I still want to learn how to do ST-stacking reliably and get my marathon score up to a more respectable value. I probably won't be playing any more World Battles unless they come out with a patch for the disconnection problem, though, as the rankings are pretty meaningless if people can just cheat their way to the top.

I have noticed your name very close to mine on the leaderboard for much of this tournament. If you'd be up for it, I'd love to play some matches against you sometime - my friend code can be found in the TP friend code thread that is currently a few pages back.

[Jel]

Hey everyone, just found this site and wanted to throw my 2 cents in - as obnoxious as the disconnecters are, I personally find the actual scoring system more frustrating, there's WAY too much grinding involved, I think iphys mentioned the crazy win/loss ratio you have to have to move up once you reach the higher scores. I understand the logic behind it, but there's so many better ways they could have done it. But hey, at the end of the day I'm still just surprised nintendo is doing any kind of organized online activity at all, so I'm enjoying it.

[m:)]

Does anyone else see themselves still playing Tetris party after the tournament is over?

nope, i'll be back to ARS, i don't think i'm even going to finish this one.

[EnFuego]

I have noticed your name very close to mine on the leaderboard for much of this tournament. If you'd be up for it, I'd love to play some matches against you sometime - my friend code can be found in the TP friend code thread that is currently a few pages back.

Uh oh I think that is a challenge http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif. Yeah if I could find time to play definitely. I will add my name/FC to the thread. You will probably have a better chance of finding me on blockbox. TP distracts me too much from schoolwork that I have a tendency to always be behind in.

edit: This game's garbage system makes absolutely no sense at all. So I decided that I am going to avoid Tetris Party at all costs. TTC is dead to me now. Bring on blockbox

[iphys]

Oh, for F's sake, Davey has got on there and cheated his way out into first place again. I tried to get on there today to see if I could work my way back up in the last couple days, but some jerk DCed on me on my first game after a long and hard battle, and then I played one more game and realized I just wasn't enjoying it at all anymore, so I decided to throw in the towel after that. I hope you can catch him, Edhuge, although I guess it's pretty near impossible to compete with a lowlife who just DCs all the time.

[EnFuego]

Oh, for F's sake, Davey has got on there and cheated his way out into first place again. I tried to get on there today to see if I could work my way back up in the last couple days, but some jerk DCed on me on my first game after a long and hard battle, and then I played one more game and realized I just wasn't enjoying it at all anymore, so I decided to throw in the towel after that. I hope you can catch him, Edhuge, although I guess it's pretty near impossible to compete with a lowlife who just DCs all the time.

This is the angry and frustration tetris party causes. Ed was doing decent (I lost to him twice today) so he has my support for first place.

[m:)]

i'm done with the tourney i'd rather have fun http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
this game kicks ass


cheers to the patients you guys have for continuing on with this mess of a tourney. my position held in the top 100, i'm glad i ducked out after the first weekend. I would have been cussing out my TV too much

[durga2112]

What time today does the tournament actually end? I'm currently barely hanging in there at 94th, but I don't think I'll have a chance to move up any further, as yesterday's session was an absolute disaster that ended up losing me another 200 or so points (I didn't update after that, naturally). It's been frustrating dealing with disconnects, but I've also found this tournament to be rather exciting, mainly because I've been so close to dropping out of the top 100 a few times only to pull myself back up. I also had to laugh a few times when someone disconnected in the middle of a match, then ended up against me for the next match, at which point they disconnected again before even starting the match - I'm glad to know that I'm good enough at this game to strike such fear into some people. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[m:)]

it ends at UTC 00:00 for me thats 5 PM I'm on MST (UCT-7) (currently the same as california daylight time)

[edhuge]

Oh, for F's sake, Davey has got on there and cheated his way out into first place again. I tried to get on there today to see if I could work my way back up in the last couple days, but some jerk DCed on me on my first game after a long and hard battle, and then I played one more game and realized I just wasn't enjoying it at all anymore, so I decided to throw in the towel after that. I hope you can catch him, Edhuge, although I guess it's pretty near impossible to compete with a lowlife who just DCs all the time.

I lost three times last night and I'm down to around 8800ish. I just got home from work and won't be able to catch up with only an hour left. I played Davey several times in the past few days (with two different Mii's), and he did not DC when I beat him. He looks to be legit and probably edged me out in the matches we played. Iphys... Let's try to get some matches in against each other, they've always been good battles.

[iphys]

You think Davey is legit? You're sure he just hasn't mastered how to do the disconnect at the last second so that he avoids losing points while other people still get there's? Seems weird that people here and at gamefaqs were separately complaining about his DCs.

Yeah, we should play for sure! I sent you my friend code a couple days ago by PM, so it should be in your inbox if you didn't see it yet.

[durga2112]

#99 - awwww yeah! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I hope everyone doesn't abandon this game now that the tournaments are over, as I'd love to play against some of you. On the other hand, I am curious to try some of the other games I see people talking about here, so who knows. One way or another, I'm sure I'll see you guys around!

[EnFuego]

84th and scored wii points in all the tournaments!! Glad that is over.

[EnFuego]

e-mails were sent with the points. It says on the site I finished 83rd but 69th in the e-mail. So if anyone just missed top 100 by a couple places they still could have a chance of getting wii points.

[herc]

Tournament #4 Summary:

Period: April 16, 2009 – April 30, 2009
Your Final Rank: 45 of 100

and also won in each tournament the 1200 points. thanks alot to tetrisparty.com for the points!

[SimMarine]

Woo, got the e-mail. I'll claim my 1200 points and hopefully buy something neat. There's also Cave Story I could just wait for.

I really should've paid attention to the game earlier; I didn't know they were doing tournaments with prizes until the 4th one started.

[Jauz]

e-mails were sent with the points. It says on the site I finished 83rd but 69th in the e-mail. So if anyone just missed top 100 by a couple places they still could have a chance of getting wii points.

That's indeed what happened to me. I originally thought that I finished out of the running for the top 100. I think I was 120th on the tetrisparty.com leaderboard. A few days ago I got an email stating that I finished 100 out of 100 and that I could claim my Wii points!

I do wonder what happened though. Did they figur out who was cheating and disqualify them or did some of the people in front of me just not bother to submit their score?

[t-block]

Probably people forgetting to submit. I don't think they could DQ people for disconnecting.