*blockgasm*

[muf]

In what appears to be something like collective consciousness, the Heboris developers have implemented netplay into Hebo Mini!


I've set up a (temporary) server and I've played caffeine, edo and Caithness. Orgasmic is our only word for it.


So what are you waiting for? Head on over to the Heboris Uploader (http://hebo.game-host.org/default.htm) and fetch Hebo Mini V19, and V20b (patch). Extract these over an existing copy of YGS2K Heboris.


Setting up netplay in Hebo Mini:

Launch heboplugin.exe, and click Add. Now add all the plugins listed in plugin_net, and close heboplugin.


Setting up a server:

in other\heboserver there's source code and a Windows binary for the Hebo Mini netplay server. It takes one argument which is the port it will be listening on. So for example:

C:\Hebo Mini\other\heboserver\> heboserver.exe 5001

Will launch the Hebo Mini netplay server, listening on port 5001.

For someone to be able to connect to you on your server, it's likely that you're going to have to forward the TCP port in question (http://portforward.com/routers.htm).


Connecting to a server:

Open up heboris.ini, and find this line:

//?????? (Netplay?
Pick any of the values and change "localhost" into the IP address or hostname/dyndns of the server you are connecting to, and change the number to the port number. So if good ol' Alexey was hosting a game on port 2541, an entry would look something like this:
networkServerName[0] = "pajitnov.ath.cx";      // ???? (Host)
networkServerPort[0] = 2541;            // ????? (Port)
Now launch Heboris.exe, and start a game like you're used to, but select one of these three plugins:

NET_LINES -- Race eachother to 40 lines

NET_STANDARD -- Normal Tetris with garbage, no items

NET_ULTRA -- Race eachother to the highest amount of lines cleared or score (configurable), this mode seems bugged

Choose Host or Guest, hosts can only play guests and guests can only play hosts.


A server can host multiple games, in pairs of Host/Guest, and obviously with matching plugins.


I'll be hosting all day until I go to bed:

infernoz.speedxs.nl:24511

And DeHackEd seems to have a server up as well:

dehacked.2y.net:5000

I'm located in Europe, DeHackEd's in Canada, so for people on the west side of the Atlantic ocean, you'll want to connect to DeHackEd, and folks on the east side of the Atlantic will want to connect to me.


Let the block orgies begin! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[cdsboy]

LET US HOPE IT RUNS IN WINE!!

[DIGITAL]

Holy shit is all I have to say...

[sjoecool1991]

I cant get it to run.

Can someone just upload the entire folder please?

Sorry if I'm dumb with computers (which I am, lol).

[DIGITAL]

I cant get it to run.
Can someone just upload the entire folder please?
Sorry if I'm dumb with computers (which I am, lol).


Come to #arika on Quakenet. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[DIGITAL]

DeHackEd has kindly set up a server for us to play on.


dehacked.2y.net:5000

[mat]

1. this actually works.

2. blockgasm.

[timc]

amazing, i skipped over the thread in the morning because of the stupid title


but this is truly big news

[DIGITAL]

amazing, i skipped over the thread in the morning because of the stupid title

but this is truly big news


muf preferred this title. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Zaphod77]

I've written a new net_standard.c


It is identical to the existing one, but with one important difference.


It provides for forcing ARE on if the guest player has configured his rotation system to skip it.


By default it's at "player choice", but you can force ARE OFF, ON, or ON(WITH SKIP)


get it here


REMOVED, folded into the main plugins.


Looks like they saw it. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[sjoecool1991]

I cant get it to run.
Can someone just upload the entire folder please?
Sorry if I'm dumb with computers (which I am, lol).

Come to #arika on Quakenet. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

mIRC?

I don't use it.

[muf]

If any Hebo Mini developers are reading this, I have two bug/annoyance reports:

Consecutive games have the same piece sequence There is no way to know who you are playing against! A name or arcade sign (ARK, KIL, MUF, etc) would be good for identifying opponents

Other than that, this is great! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif We are all loving it. ?????!

EDIT: Also thank you for beta 3! The english translation of heboserver is much appreciated.

[DIGITAL]

NOTICE: BETA 3 of V20 is out. This message is to keep everyone in synch.

[Amnesia]

OH OH OH OH !!!!!!


I CAN FEEL A MEGA CONTEST FOR SOON... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Me with Ti ARS joystick VS DIGITAL Ti SRS keyboard

So exciting..


Everybody will be able to choose his hand support, ARS/SRS/DRS..

Bou will show his new power on DRS..

My god..That will change our life.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[sjoecool1991]

Help!

I can't get it to work!

Please someone upload a folder with everything ready.

[LOst]

Help!
I can't get it to work!
Please someone upload a folder with everything ready.


It is easy. You extract zip files. The first one is named hebo160a.zip. When you have an extracted folder, it is time to extract hebo0021.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V19) into that folder replacing some files. Then you extract hebo0024.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V20 BETA3 (Patch)) into the same folder as above, replacing some files.


Now run heboplugin.exe, add the following plugins and press OK:

plugin_net\net_line.c

plugin_net\net_standard.c

plugin_net\net_ultra.c


When you load Heboris for the first time, you have to setup the buttons. Then you can setup the rest, such as windowed mode, or fullscreen.

Finally choose the game "net_standard" and..... annoyingly you have to wait for someone to join your game.

[sjoecool1991]

Help!
I can't get it to work!
Please someone upload a folder with everything ready.

It is easy. You extract zip files. The first one is named hebo160a.zip. When you have an extracted folder, it is time to extract hebo0021.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V19) into that folder replacing some files. Then you extract hebo0024.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V20 BETA3 (Patch)) into the same folder as above, replacing some files.

Now run heboplugin.exe, add the following plugins and press OK:
plugin_net\net_line.c
plugin_net\net_standard.c
plugin_net\net_ultra.c

When you load Heboris for the first time, you have to setup the buttons. Then you can setup the rest, such as windowed mode, or fullscreen.
Finally choose the game "net_standard" and..... annoyingly you have to wait for someone to join your game.


Lol, I was downloading the wrong build.

Well, I'm on now waiting for someone to join.

[Zaphod77]

My plugin is now obsolete. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

It's been folded into the main code.


(yes, they used the same variable name i used to do it. No, i don't have a problem with that. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif )

[DIGITAL]

Well, I'm on now waiting for someone to join.


What you want to do is get into #arika on Quakenet. Sitting there and waiting for people at random can be very problematic.

[sjoecool1991]

Well, I'm on now waiting for someone to join.

What you want to do is get into #arika on Quakenet. Sitting there and waiting for people at random can be very problematic.

I don't use IRC, because I can't find a download of a good program, and it never works when I try to connect to anything.


EDIT: nevermind

Got is working.

[Ghett0]

AWESOME! I wuv the Heboris devs.


*Tetris induced erection*

[Amnesia]

Not very good for you my Ghetto.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
A lot of people here desire fight with you to see what you can really do..

Please reserve a moment for me..

[Ghett0]

Amnesia, I've reserved a moment for kicking EVERYONE's butts. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[muf]

Amnesia, I've reserved a moment for kicking EVERYONE's butts. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

If "everyone" includes Digital and caffeine then you're in for a disappointment. These two have won tournaments and apart from eachother, nobody can even touch them. Last night they were racing 40 lines and it kept ending in a draw.

[Ghett0]

Amnesia, I've reserved a moment for kicking EVERYONE's butts. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
If "everyone" includes Digital and caffeine then you're in for a disappointment. These two have won tournaments and apart from eachother, nobody can even touch them. Last night they were racing 40 lines and it kept ending in a draw.


I'll try and beat them.

[muf]

I'll try to beat them.

fix'd

[Ghett0]

I'll try to beat them.
fix'dNo, I will try and beat them.

[jujube]

c'mon guys, this is totally ridiculous. it's "i will try or beat them."


no, seriously, this is pretty ridiculous. either way is correct anyway. seriously, muf, if you want to annoy him do it with garbage in heboris.

[muf]

No, I will try and beat them.

http://www.greensmilies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/smiley_emoticons_rofl3.gifhttp://www.robhalford.com/quorum/images/smilies/rofl2.gifhttp://discussion.socalskateparks.com/images/smilies/smiley_rofl.gifhttp://www.israelfishingforum.co.il/Smileys/default/laughing-smiley-007.gif

[Ghett0]

No, I will try and beat them.
http://www.greensmilies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/smiley_emoticons_rofl3.gifhttp://www.robhalford.com/quorum/images/smilies/rofl2.gifhttp://discussion.socalskateparks.com/images/smilies/smiley_rofl.gifhttp://www.israelfishingforum.co.il/Smileys/default/laughing-smiley-007.gif


Wanna bet on it?

[DIGITAL]

No, I will try and beat them.
http://www.greensmilies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/smiley_emoticons_rofl3.gifhttp://www.robhalford.com/quorum/images/smilies/rofl2.gifhttp://discussion.socalskateparks.com/images/smilies/smiley_rofl.gifhttp://www.israelfishingforum.co.il/Smileys/default/laughing-smiley-007.gif

Wanna bet on it?

Is that a challenge I hear (see if you want to start getting semantic about it http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif )?

[caffeine]

and the smack talk begins... IT'S ON!

[Ghett0]

Yes peoples, that's a CHALLENGE!

[DIGITAL]

If a lobby system is not implemented soon, I think it would be nice to have a display indicating how many people are hosting or guesting.

[caffeine]

well there can only be 1 person hosting or guesting at any one time, right?

[DIGITAL]

Though a person could be doing neither if you get what I mean.

[DeHackEd]

A way to see who is connected to the server with names would be nice. Even if it were only the 3 character initials, it would be good. Right now we just get paired up any way the server wants and can't even identify our opponent.

[timc]

thank you heboris gods


can you please add a DEMO/REPLAY feature?

can you please add a SPECTATOR/WATCH feature?

[DeHackEd]

I've hacked up the server to run as a linux app. No winelib or any of that silly stuff. I also plan to decode the protocol and start snooping. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

This could be awesome.

[jujube]

great great great http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Zaphod77]

i made another update to net_standard.c


this one lets you force init LR move off.


http://eunich.cochems.com/~zaphod/net_standard.zip


try NOW.

[DIGITAL]

Another suggestion: it would be awesome to have presets for the netplay mode configs.

[Zaphod77]

oh another update. DAS is now forced. player can't use a smaller one. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

If "everyone" includes Digital and caffeine then you're in for a disappointment. These two have won tournaments and apart from eachother, nobody can even touch them. Last night they were racing 40 lines and it kept ending in a draw.



I think you exagerate a bit mufunyo..

There is around 10 peoples here who can seriously touch them..

Sure I won't try in a 40 lines, but in a battle that will be different, I consider that my stacking is slightly superior, so they will eat garbage if they battle against me or c_t... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[caffeine]

blink is very strong, too. and jono is joining the mix.


amnesia, keep in mind that versus is a very different battlefield than single player.

[Zaphod77]

my greatest achivement.


I have added customizable repeat delay to the srs setup, and to multiplayer.


backup your hebo mini


then unzip this in.


REMOVED, part of official Mini now

[DeHackEd]

A message for the creators of heboris mini:


My server should not be in the INI file. It is a personal server I was using for testing. I made changes to the server which needed to be tested. It will not be running all the time.

[sjoecool1991]

Nice matches Zaphod.


This is seriously better than Tetris DS, just because I can play with my stick.

[Zaphod77]

Dehacked's server actually runs under a different operating system.

[mat]

amnesia, keep in mind that versus is a very different battlefield than single player.


totally different--it's going to take me a long time to get used to playing like this, but it is a whole lot more enjoyable for me than TDS so that shouldn't be a problem.


i think this whole tier thing people seem to have going in their heads around here is going to have to be refined. most people on this board are "freaking good" at tetris, and regardless of who has the fastest 40 line, the fastest master mode complete, the best shirase endurance, there's a huge move to an even-er playing field with something like this.


worth keeping in mind: mandating a relatively high ARE can get someone at 3 pieces per second playing near fairly against someone comfortable at 2 pieces per second, with no actual "handicap" in play.


now what we really need is some stat tracking that shows how many games against a given player were loss/win, and then in a couple months you guys can start making lists of top players again.

[Zaphod77]

right. a high ARE and/or a high line clear delay is an equalizer that gives the slower people tiem to think without being steamrolled by a fast player.


Ideally low speed games should be played without ARE, while high speed play definitely NEED it. (20G without ArE is pretty hard)

[jujube]

Ideally low speed games should be played without ARE, while high speed play definitely NEED it. (20G without ArE is pretty hard)

that's for ARS of course.

[DIGITAL]

I think this will be a very good opportunity for people to improve. Multiplayer refines many weak points that go unnoticed by singleplayer-centric players.

[tepples]

Multiplayer refines many weak points that go unnoticed by singleplayer-centric players.

What is the big difference between multiplayer and garbage attack?

[DIGITAL]

Multiplayer refines many weak points that go unnoticed by singleplayer-centric players.
What is the big difference between multiplayer and garbage attack?

If garbage was sent during play, then there really isn't any big difference (other than the irregular and non-constant garbage sent by a human). The assumption though was that most players play more standard singleplayer modes.

[caffeine]

that's like saying why bother playing street fighter against anyone when you can play single player mode instead.

[tepples]

that's like saying why bother playing street fighter against anyone when you can play single player mode instead.

It often costs significantly more money to play multiplayer over the Internet, such as cell phone minutes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution), Wi-Fi hotspot access fees, or subscriptions to a matchmaking service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live#Pricing_and_subscriptions).

[kotetsu213]

Unless you play Alpha 2 on GGPO like I do >_>

[caffeine]

it would be a whole lot cheaper for me to communicate with other tetris enthusiasts in real life, or even mail out a tetrisconcept newsletter biweekly. does that mean i shouldn't pay the tetrisconcept.com hosting bill next month?

[Zaphod77]

oh, but if you host with someone and they can't seem to use auto repeat properly, they are playing with my mod, and you need to download and install it if you want to play a fair game with them.


either that, or they should redownload my mod. i fixed it to play nicer with official beta 4

[jujube]

good games Ghett0. you were stacking fine and making tetrises, but i guess with ARS the garbage was a little hard for you to clear. hope to play again sometime. maybe i'll try ARS, but no promises http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Ghett0]

good games Ghett0. you were stacking fine and making tetrises, but i guess with ARS the garbage was a little hard for you to clear. hope to play again sometime. maybe i'll try ARS, but no promises http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif


We can have a proper game tomorrow, when I get a good keyboard layout to work with.

[Zaphod77]

Well, once again my mod is obsolete, since the hebo devs have put in my functions. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

BTW, to the devs. You're welcome. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Rosti LFC]

For those who didn't see it in IRC, a video of how I somehow managed to send over 83 million lines to caffeine during some netplay games:


www.tetrisconcept.com/Movie.wmv (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../Movie.wmv)

[Meroigo]

Rosti: Fantastic. :'>

[tepples]

A back-to-back tetris or T-spin double in Tetris DS sends five lines of garbage. This number as a 32-bit integer is 0x00000005; if you reverse the order of bytes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness), you get 0x05000000 = 83,886,080. Are all parties using the same kind of computer (for example, not PowerPC vs. x86)? Or might changes to the protocol have changed the position of some bytes in the data stream?

[DeHackEd]

The server suffers from a case of assuming that a recv() call always returns a full size packet. Funky TCP happenings (easy with a bit of packet loss) can result in server crashes or screwing up data. Maybe this is what happened?


As for CPU types, the game is distributed as an x86 windows EXE. Even if you ran it on wine + qemu for x86 support, it simulates the right byte order by necessity. So.... uhhh...

[tepples]

As for CPU types, the game is distributed as an x86 windows EXE.

Sorry, had it confused with the C++ SDL version.

[DeHackEd]

If you want to host your own server, here's my linux version.


Source code (http://dehacked.2y.net/heboserver-linux.zip), requires linux 2.6 or linux 2.4 with the epoll patch.


Changes:

Linux code. Uses epoll for socket monitoring. Lots of windows code was commented out or deleted. Receive buffering. Should prevent crashes next time network lag results in recv() acting up.

To compile, just run "gcc heboserver.c -o heboserver". Needs no special libraries that don't come with a modern linux C compiler.


The usual sprinkling of sarcastic commentary is found for those of you who choose to read the C file. You'll easily be able to spot which comments are mine.

[colour_thief]

// With the old code, if you half read a packet (which is what recv does if it has less data
// in the receive buffer than you asked for) then bad stuff happens. Maybe Windows will
// wait for a full size read, but linux won't.
//
// So if by net congestion or bad luck you get a half-read packet, half the data will be
// read and now the message sequence is thrown off. When reading the size of the next
// message, you get some data from the middle of the previous message. And explode.
//
// To work around this, the new socket code does in-program buffers which can be restarted
// should a packet turn out to be a short read. Basically if we don't receive a full
// packet as per the read size requested, we call it an error and try again later.


Cool. Lets hope this fix makes it into the base version.

[Amnesia]

Fast abstract of our fisrt visit Bou and me..


We began with awfull setting of ARE, LC, LD and DAS..


1 : Bou VS zaphod : no problem as my expectation..


2 : Bou VS hektor : no problem as well, but I suspect hektor to be a noob in parameter setting..


3 : Bou VS caffeine.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif ..A disaster, but the second session has been more balanced once our setting began to be good, Bou killed caffeine one time after 1 attempts, and was close to destroy him a second time when the connection has been cut.. Result 10-1 or something like that..


4 : Me VS caffeine..No comment, I stay quiet for the next battle because my setting were very slow..(ARE and LC = 1 hour)

So I have not been able to win one match..


By the way, if somebody knows the exact values to simulate :

- Heboris C7 G4 Master 500 (max speed curve)

- Heboris C7 G4 DOOM 200

[Rosti LFC]

By the way, if somebody knows the exact values to simulate :
- Heboris C7 G4 Master 500 (max speed curve)
- Heboris C7 G4 DOOM 200


You might as well pull those values from the Wiki article on Ti, because they're basically identical.

[johnberhenry]

It is easy. You extract zip files. The first one is named hebo160a.zip. When you have an extracted folder, it is time to extract hebo0021.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V19) into that folder replacing some files. Then you extract hebo0024.zip (HEBORIS U.E. MINI V20 BETA3 (Patch)) into the same folder as above, replacing some files.

Now run heboplugin.exe, add the following plugins and press OK:
plugin_net\net_line.c
plugin_net\net_standard.c
plugin_net\net_ultra.c

When you load Heboris for the first time, you have to setup the buttons. Then you can setup the rest, such as windowed mode, or fullscreen.
Finally choose the game "net_standard" and..... annoyingly you have to wait for someone to join your game.


Where'd hebo160a go?

[Caithness]

Hosiken removed it from his site due to an incident involving Heboris U.E. videos on Youtube and Nicovideo using copyrighted art and sounds from the TGM series. I'm not exactly sure about all the details, but the end result sure stinks.

[johnberhenry]

Anyway, does anyone have a mirror?

[mushroom]

http://thepowerofsneeze.com/nethebo.zip


the whole thing, all set up.

[johnberhenry]

THX!

Anyway, what keys do you use?

[Amnesia]

Bou (DRD) VS matt_hatter (ARS)


2-10

..

3-20


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif Don't worry my padawan..

One day the DRS will make you stronger than everybody here.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[johnberhenry]

OMG! IT'S THE DTET ROTATION SYSTEM (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php?title=DTET_Rotation_System)! RUN AWAY!!!


edit: link added

[Amnesia]

Yeah.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif You understand very well..

Currently Bou doesn't master yet it..

But by the time, he will become very powerfull and beat everybody..

He is like sangohan who doesn't master yet his whole power..

[Meroigo]

I set up a Heboris Net Play server that should work, on my dedicated web server. The thought is that it should be online all the time, but if it do gets offline, something's wrong with my web server and I will try getting it online again as fast as I can. :>


Host: meroigo.com

Port: 8787

Location: Sweden, Europe

[Ghett0]

I set up a Heboris Net Play server that should work, on my dedicated web server. The thought is that it should be online all the time, but if it do gets offline, something's wrong with my web server and I will try getting it online again as fast as I can. :>

Host: meroigo.com
Port: 8787
Location: Sweden, Europe

Thankies!