[TGM1]

[Amnesia]

The best known performance is :

WR--777---------------------Gm - 999 @ 08:48:60 - 06/13/10

Best recorded performance: Gm - 999 @ 08:54:85 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQRTFAwx0gI) - 08/03/09

*** WESTERN RANKING ***


Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date

================================================== =========
1--K----------------------Gm - 999 @ 09:39:46 - 03/04/10 - PCB
2--Edo--------------------Gm - 999 @ 09:43:25 - 12/22/11 - PCB
3--Amnesia----------------Gm - 999 @ 09:44:80 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f3ZAAmtjBs&feature=youtu.be) - 02/29/12 - MAME
4--Kitaru-----------------Gm - 999 @ 09:54:90 - 10/25/10 - PCB
5--KevinDDR---------------Gm - 999 @ 09:55:95 - 03/??/12 - PCB
6--colour_thief-----------Gm - 999 @ 09:57:50 - 05/20/09 - PCB
-----------------------------------------------------------
7--DeHackEd---------------Gm - 999 @ 10:00:48 - 03/08/12 - MAME
8--rednefed---------------Gm - 999 @ 10:08:26 - 07/01/11 - MAME
9--cyberguile-------------Gm - 999 @ 10:09:25 - 04/14/12 - PCB
10--EIHoppe----------------Gm - 999 @ 10:23:03 - 04/09/12 - MAME
11--Ai---------------------Gm - 999 @ 10:34:68 - 05/07/11 - MAME
12--mfm005-----------------Gm - 999 @ 10:37:51 - 07/03/11
13--kukrapoc_bazza---------Gm - 999 @ 10:38:15 - 03/30/08
14--COL--------------------Gm - 999 @ 10:44:35 - 10/06/10
15--TWF--------------------Gm - 999 @ 10:44:46 - 07/23/11
16--Key--------------------Gm - 999 @ 10:53:63 - 02/25/12
17--Rosti LFC--------------Gm - 999 @ 10:54:10 - 06/10/11
18--sjoecool1991-----------Gm - 999 @ 10:56:20 - 10/04/10
19--mat--------------------Gm - 999 @ 10:58:06 - 09/28/07
20--DDRKirby(ISQ)----------Gm - 999 @ 10:58:15 - 07/31/11
-----------------------------------------------------------
21--mushroom---------------Gm - 999 @ 11:10:45 - 11/04/09
22--an ass-----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:19:85 - 03/14/10
23--clincher---------------Gm - 999 @ 11:21:78 - 05/09/11
24--Zircean----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:28:23 - 12/27/10
25--LOst-------------------Gm - 999 @ 11:29:26 - 03/22/10
26--DIGITAL----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:30:46
27--Free-------------------Gm - 999 @ 11:34:45 - 04/14/10
28--Baxter-----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:35:65 - 05/05/08
29--Samael-----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:39:96 - 12/25/10
30--CrazedRevenG-----------Gm - 999 @ 11:46:81 - 10/28/10
31--awake------------------Gm - 999 @ 11:47:33 - 10/06/10
32--nightmareci------------Gm - 999 @ 11:47:35 - 05/16/09
33--etherstorm-------------Gm - 999 @ 11:50:16
34--Goplat-----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:50:28 - 04/10/10
35--tada-------------------Gm - 999 @ 11:58:15 - 05/23/09
36--mufunyo----------------Gm - 999 @ 11:58:80 - 06/13/10
37--Vesly------------------Gm - 999 @ 11:59:91 - 10/06/10
-----------------------------------------------------------
38--Taratang---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:00:95 - 10/16/07
39--Deeem2031--------------Gm - 999 @ 12:01:48 - 04/04/10
40--Billmaan---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:07:23 - 05/06/08
41--Budster----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:09:08 - 06/19/10
42--deepdorp---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:11:01 - 07/23/09
43--mikehaggar-------------Gm - 999 @ 12:18:06 - 09/16/10
44--tet2brik---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:19:78 - 04/??/12
45--Xkeeper----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:20:31 - 04/24/09
46--Kasumi-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:22:48 - 03/26/11
47--Lion-------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:31:43 - 02/06/08
48--gila-------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:31:76 - 03/01/09
49--Ex_Mosquito------------Gm - 999 @ 12:31:93 - 06/06/09
50--NLB--------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:33:28 - 09/06/10
51--Ken_P------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:35:31
52--LadyLily---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:36:35 - 04/06/11
53--statikeffect-----------Gm - 999 @ 12:36:50 - 09/04/08
54--kreichjr---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:37:56 - 06/06/10
55--Jeremy-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:37:88 - --/--/10
56--Leffe------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:39:93 - 12/02/07
57--cgwg-------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:40:10 - 05/23/09
58--croikle----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:46:66 - 06/20/10
59--cleure-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:46:96 - 04/15/12
60--wksrdg-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:47:36 - 12/08/09
61--Poochy-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:48:41
62--Quad-------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:52:21 - 01/22/09
63--Shade------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:52:61
64--PetitPrince------------Gm - 999 @ 12:58:46 - 08/13/08
65--steadshot--------------Gm - 999 @ 12:59:63 - 10/19/10
66--SoliDeoGloriaAA--------Gm - 999 @ 12:59:81 - 05/25/11
67--jujube-----------------Gm - 999 @ 12:--:-- - --/--/09
-----------------------------------------------------------
68--nicofromtokyo----------Gm - 999 @ 13:00:35 - 04/08/12
69--moonair----------------Gm - 999 @ 13:10:40 - --/--/11
70--Bou--------------------Gm - 999 @ 13:14:93 - 01/31/08
71--SimMarine--------------Gm - 999 @ 13:15:88 - 08/27/09
72--Mr. Antisocial---------Gm - 999 @ 13:20:65
73--Tarto------------------Gm - 999 @ 13:21:73
74--Caithness--------------Gm - 999 @ 13:23:70 - 01/06/10
75--znakeeye---------------Gm - 999 @ --:--:--
================================================== =========
76--Ray Ayanami------------S9 - 973 @ 12:08:50 - 12/02/10
77--Air Gear---------------S9 - 993 @ 13:06:33
78--Meroigo----------------S9 - 999 @ 13:14:41 - 05/13/09
79--MisterBenn-------------S9 - 999 @ 13:21:85 - 10/07/10
80--iuvmaqi8---------------S9 - 999 @ --:--:-- - 11/11/11
81--Uli--------------------S9 - 936 @ 13:35:36 - 12/03/11
82--DumbledorsArmy---------S8 - 952 @ 12:28:83 - 09/19/08
83--Tony76-----------------S8 - 999 @ 14:50:50 - 05/20/09
84--upy--------------------S7 - 833 @ 11:50:35 - 05/29/09
85--Red Star---------------S6 - 742 @ 08:13:36 - 01/14/08
86--LordPie----------------S6 - 622 @ 08:28:45 - 03/05/08
87--cdsboy-----------------S6 - 714 @ 08:50:30
88--merpy------------------S6 - 699 @ 09:25:68 - 08/03/09
89--shoryu-----------------S6 - 892 @ 12:50:41 - 01/26/08
90--Sy---------------------S6 - --- @ --:--:--
91--The Enigmatic Form-----S5 - --- @ 06:35:35 - 03/28/10
92--kapat------------------S5 - 536 @ 07:50:96
93--elph-------------------S5 - 625 @ 07:58:58 - 05/19/08
94--m:)--------------------S5 - 699 @ 10:42:20 - 01/10/09
95--Webby------------------S4 - 584 @ 08:32:03
96--Gaby-------------------S4 - 5-- @ --:--:--
97--Crystory---------------S3 - 562 @ 09:42:15
98--sihumchai--------------S3 - --- @ --:--:--
99--NoonShaK---------------S3 - 465 @ --:--:--
100--Tiago Dutra------------S2 - 336 @ 03:31:98 - 03/20/11
101--angrycoder-------------S2 - 424 @ 07:00:--
102--herc-------------------S2 - 522 @ 09:00:41
103--Lardarse---------------S1 - 315 @ 06:52:23 - 01/20/09


TGM rules :

1 : Reach lv. 300 with the 1 rank under 4:15.
2 : Reach lv. 500 with the S4 rank under 7:30.
3 : Reach lv. 999 with the S9 rank under 13:30 and 126000 pts.


ADVICE :

For the 0 - 300 , try to play as high as you can, around 2/3 ot the stack, in order to save few second from the lack of hard dropping.
At the end, around 950 try to finish on the bottom of the matrix, it is more beneficial to finish very low with single and double than trying to continue Tetrises after S9.

This is the optimal and maximal time I recommend for the whole game :
0 - 100 ---> 85 sec ---> 1:25
100 - 200 ---> 85 sec ---> 2:50
200 - 300 ---> 85 sec ---> 4:15 (!)
300 - 400 ---> 85 sec ---> 5:40
400 - 500 ---> 80 sec ---> 7:00
500 - 600 ---> 78 sec ---> 8:18
600 - 700 ---> 78 sec ---> 9:36
700 - 800 ---> 78 sec ---> 10:54
800 - 900 ---> 78 sec ---> 12:12
900 - 999 ---> 78 sec ---> 13:30 (!)

[etherstorm]

my personal best:


http://www.snapdrive.net/files/36921/gm115016.jpg

[colour_thief]

I'll have to look mine up, but I know it's under 11 minutes!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif
Hou!! nice etherstorm!

Another american Gm..


10 Gm players on the list..

I think there is around 20 western Gm players..

[kukrapoc_bazza]

Gm, 11:41:87.



I think there are more than 20 werstern Gm players, Amnesia http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
The thing is that a big part of the tetris community do not know this website. What a pity, actually.

[Amnesia]

WOUUHOUHOUH!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Un autre Joueur Gm!!

Et francophone en plus!


Tu as raison il y en a bien plus je pense aussi..

Mais t'inquiète pas je les ressencerais tous!!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif




http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif Aie..Il va encore dire que je m'excite trop..


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I could post a pic, but I can't be bothered.


That's an old record. Well, sort of.


My newest:


S7

Level 920

90427 points

12:46:86


Didn't get the mastering time, because I forgot to take a screenshot until after it said "Game Over" It was probably around 10:30 . I wasted a lot of time at S6 and S7 just clearing singles.

[herc]

just played a bit, thats my current best (S1, 7:10min):

http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tgm_herc_curbest.png

[Tarto]

My personal best so far:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/Tartoaujapon/TartoTGM999S9.jpg
I know it's REAAAALLY slow but as long as I don't get solid building skills, I'll keep wasting a lot of time clearing garbage that shouldn't be there in the first place...

[Rosti LFC]

Just as a question, does the game end at 999, or does it keep going until you either die or hit S9?

[cyberguile]

the game ends when you clear a line at 999

[shade]

GM at: 12:52:61, score: 151376


so, not entirely in the "upper ranks"


record made 18.10.2004

[Amnesia]

Hello shade!

Colour_thief told me you have stoped TGM during a long time.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[shade]

Hey Amnesia!


Yea, i've been busy with other projects, a bit rl here and there, etc.

But you know, good things last forever, old habits never die http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Been working on hebo lite lately, brought the tap animated backgrounds into hebo, along with the randomization code..


so yea, i'm back http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

OK!

That will be the same for me..

I will have too work for the next year..

Jago said me you are a killer in programmation on C http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif ..



so yea, i'm back


I hope a return of you on TAP

[cdsboy]

S3 @ 6:01:63 - 435


Ya i think i'm gonna have to work on this game.


UPDATE:

Umm i had a stellar game...

S5 @ 8:26:25 - 650

[Amnesia]

680 in 8:42 (S6)

just 3 min before with a keyboard..


as fast as you I think.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[K]

Hi,


Please change my record, because it is not official (jagoris)


a more correct should be Gm in 10:24:~~

[LOst]

GM 13:15:40. Haven't been able to get a good seed to produce a better record. And keyboard is starting to produce errors. I have pretty much given up a better result in TGM1.


Here is the proof, I now officially hate the randomizer in TGM1. It never gives the pieces you need, except in a game out of a million, it gives you only the piece you want (but way wrong):

http://www.logotypes.se/annoying.avi


GAH!

[Amnesia]

Hi,

Please change my record, because it is not official (jagoris)

a more correct should be Gm in 10:24:~~



C'est tout !??

Putain jsui décu... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

Non je plaisante! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

It's corrected!

[cyberguile]

Here is the proof, I now officially hate the randomizer in TGM1.
GAH!


Personnally, I love the randomizer in tgm1 !

How many times I had two tetrises in a raw http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
I think it only occured once in tgm2

[herc]

i got a bit better:


http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tgm_herc_curbest.png

[Air Gear]

I'll actually post a screenshot when I finally hit S7, but until then, the best on my high score list is S6 in 8:14:50. The best one I have a field screenshot of is S6 in 9:06:66, though the full game length was 9:41:23 at 727.

[Amnesia]

A little complicated.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
I prefer wait for a nice S7 from you..

Don't panic and take your time..

[Amnesia]

He he!!

Pas mal Bou.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
S4...


TGM: S6
TAP Master: S1
TAP TGM+: 603
TAP TA Death: 256


(from Air Gear)


That should make you meditate..

You've lost before 500 it's stupid!!!

You are able to reach ~600 ...

[Air Gear]

Ok Amnesia...guess the wait was relatively short. My 20g survival seems to be getting a LOT better:


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/qwAirGear/TGM896S7.jpg

Next I work on getting a few more tetrises.

[Amnesia]

OUFFfff.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif Finaly performed with a keyboard, with a correct time..

It's a very good gymnastic for fingers..

[Crystory]

now i got my hands on a arcade stick. its feels way better than a keyboard while playing. now its time to start training. what do you guys think is the best start for a beginner? tgm1, heboris 20 mode, or even tap death right away? 20g feels most comfortable for me, even if i cant handle it quite long. it makes way more fun than normal speed.

[Amnesia]

I will try the most complete answer I can :

Both the 2 modes are very important, I won't speak about heboris because it seems not essential for me..

the 20G mode have a special dynamic totally different from the normal sub 20G game..You must not forget that.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

If you only choose the way of DEATH mode (aias for example), you are condemned to block at a several skill level..

If you only do master mode, you'll never do good time under 10min00

(mfm for example)


You must balance your training with Master mode and death mode..Even if DEATH mode is more exciting..


Master mode will make you improve your skill and develop your ability for making more tetrises, that will help you to find best way in death mode to save your life..


Death mode will increase your speed ability and will allow you to feel more comfortable for high speed in Master mode (700+)


The 2 modes are complementary! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

About me, I feel some period where I'm motivated for death, and other period where I prefer master..

[Crystory]

okay i understand. should i play master on tgm2+ or tgm1? i think i read somewhere that its kinda different.

[kotetsu213]

If you play TGM2 you get access to sonic drop which makes Master mode easier (and more enjoyable), besides that, they're the same until halfway through, then TGM2's Master mode is faster while TGM1 stays at the same speed.­­

[Air Gear]

I'd like to add that the original TGM is probably better if your system has lesser specs, say, under 2 GHz or 512 RAM. If you can find the alternate MAME that doesn't have the animated backgrounds and hence runs TAP better, though...well, point me toward it since the last archive I got didn't work http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

[Crystory]

I have 2,8 GHz Duo Core +1GB ram so there shouldnt be the problem.

Well after a few trys i got this

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3416/master429il0.png
Thats the first time i reached 400

[herc]

he crystory, seems as we are "head-to-head" http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
this is my current best:


http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tgm_herc_curbest.png

try to beat me, i will try to close up!

[upy]

Here's my S3 (I got nervous repeatedly and lost).


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1969/tgms3hy1.png

Replay: tgms3.zip (http://senduit.com/3a1477) (warning: boring)


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif I knew I must have reached S5 before.

[DIGITAL]

I'd like to add that the original TGM is probably better if your system has lesser specs, say, under 2 GHz or 512 RAM. If you can find the alternate MAME that doesn't have the animated backgrounds and hence runs TAP better, though...well, point me toward it since the last archive I got didn't work http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif


http://www.geocities.jp/stgclub999jp/psimame/index.html

[Air Gear]

I'd like to add that the original TGM is probably better if your system has lesser specs, say, under 2 GHz or 512 RAM. If you can find the alternate MAME that doesn't have the animated backgrounds and hence runs TAP better, though...well, point me toward it since the last archive I got didn't work http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

http://www.geocities.jp/stgclub999jp/psimame/index.html


Thank you, though I did check that site before...I'm going to try getting a different unzipping program since it keeps saying that the archive is "invalid or corrupted".

[herc]

for me it works. i can unzip. i suggest you to use www.totalcommander.com (http://www.totalcommander.com/default.htm) , if you are used to the norton commander back in the dos era.

totalcommander has built in support for unpacking zip/rar and many more archives.

[Amnesia]

I have 2,8 GHz Duo Core +1GB ram so there shouldnt be the problem.
Well after a few trys i got this

Thats the first time i reached 400
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
If you are able to reach more than 300 in DEATH mode you can do far better than S1..
~S5 ~lv 800 should be more appropriate.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif ..



I knew I must have reached S5 before.


No no..Just S4 ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
300 : 1

500 : S4

999 : S9


-->under 13min30..

[Crystory]

Eeeeh, when did i mentioned that i reached 300 in death? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
I made 2xx in heboris devil mode normal. But thats with hold function and much easier

[Amnesia]

ohh sorry !!

I've done a confusion with Air Gear.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Crystory]

he crystory, seems as we are "head-to-head" http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
this is my current best:

http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tgm_herc_curbest.png

try to beat me, i will try to close up!

hehe du hast nen großen Trainingsvorsprung, http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
aber es wird schon noch. Zur Zeit mache ich viele 300er, auch im höheren Bereich. Nur für 400 reicht es nicht mehr http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[herc]

hehe du hast nen großen Trainingsvorsprung, http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
aber es wird schon noch. Zur Zeit mache ich viele 300er, auch im höheren Bereich. Nur für 400 reicht es nicht mehr http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

hy, naja - das war mein best-run - also auch eher ein glückstreffer.. normalerweise schaff ich nur mit mühe s1...


hmm - wir kennen uns aber nicht? ist nur zufall, das wir beide deutsch sprechen und uns hier im forum treffen? oder kennst mich noch woanders her?

[tepples]

hmm - wir kennen uns aber nicht? ist nur zufall, das wir beide deutsch sprechen und uns hier im forum treffen? oder kennst mich noch woanders her?

As long as you do your best to subtitle it in English, you can speak whatever language you want.

[herc]

@tepples: ups sorry, was already afraid to speak in german http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif just wanted to reply to Crystory in german because he did.

was just asking if he knows me from somewhere else and was pointing out that my S2 score was just a best run , not my average performance. i normally have trouble to reach S1. i can only aproach S2 of i am fully awake and ideally if someone watches me playing - strangely if someone watches, i am somehow more concentrated and play better...

whats even stranger is: if i play alone, i cannot force my self to be as nearly as awake / concentrated as if someone watches. where is my self-control http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Crystory]

no i dont know you from somewhere else and it was just a coincidence that we met here http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
in my german post i said that he trained for longer time than me and that i often hit level 300 but cant get over 400 anymore.

[Crystory]

It was my first try today.

Herc... beat this http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4981/562s3rankvr0.png
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
The training on 300 Master Mode speed paid off.

[herc]

holy shit. today, i nearly scratched s3...


http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tgm_herc_curbest.jpg

[Crystory]

i didnt expected this run to be a s3 it was just to get my fingers warm, so i wasted too much time from 0 to 300 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Tarto]

After playing for I don't remember how many months (9-10 I guess), I finally did it:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/Tartoaujapon/TGMGMupload.jpg
I was so surprised it took me a couple seconds to realize the game was still going during the credits.

Next goal is to lower the time, which shouldn't be hard, as I spent a lot of time doing singles and doubles to clear garbage.

But anyway, it's a great feeling to hit the GM rank for the first time!!!

Please update the ranking list, I'm so glad about finally getting to the other side of the barrier http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Tarto]

Also, where are Zinc replays saved? I started the game with the "Save and run" option, but I can't find anything that looks like a replay file.

[upy]

Also, where are Zinc replays saved? I started the game with the "Save and run" option, but I can't find anything that looks like a replay file.The "save and run" button in that Zinc frontend means "save configuration and run game". Zinc doesn't record your input, for that you must use Mame.

[Tarto]

OK thanks, i'll try it out then.

[colour_thief]

That's awesome Tarto! Congrats on the progress.

[DIGITAL]

Nice one Tarto. Another GM joins the ranks. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Tarto]

Thank you guys!!!

[Rosti LFC]

It's not a leaderboard improvement, but I just got:


S7 (82650)

Mastering Time: 9:06:90

Time of death: 9:32:68

Level of death: 715


It's certainly an improvement as far as the Gm requirements are concerned.

[K]

wow, congrats Tarto !!


how do you feel about the "infinite joy on your face" ?

[DIGITAL]

how do you feel about the "infinite joy on your face" ?


I love that phrase! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

Good stuff there Rosti, that's approximately the required pace. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

how do you feel about the "infinite joy on your face" ?

I love that phrase! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif


I'm still trying to figure out if it's a euphemism. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[caffeine]

the joy is infinite. that's all there is to it.

[kukrapoc_bazza]

http://membres.lycos.fr/ephec1dd2/tgm.jpg

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[DIGITAL]

Woah, nice one. you jumped 3 ranks up above me, Amnesia, and mfm.

[colour_thief]

Gah, don't make me play this game again... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Tarto]

Hey, thanks jago


I still feel really good about it, and I've decided to leave TGM1 aside until I reach 500 on TAP...

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

TTsss....That will be insuportable for me to see people improving during this 6 weeks period..

I can only play in my head..

[Rosti LFC]

Gm looks a real possibility now...


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/TGMhigh.jpg

That was at 1am. If I'd done it when I wasn't tired, I might have made the 7 second difference.


For points though, I was miles over - S9 was before 900. That helps because it means I have room to sacrifice stacking for speed a little.

[colour_thief]

Nice! Don't stop now, you're so very very close.

[K]

yeah ! really close ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Leffe]

I had almost given up on this game because of my numerous S9 but no Gm's. I usually get very nervous and lose all my stacking, just clearing singles and defending through the whole grade S9. I've reached 900 with a good stack and almost three minutes left numerous times and blown it all the time, often not even getting to 999.


Finally I barely made it, it's not a pretty one but it's Gm. I think 900-999 took me over 2 minutes and I was close to failure this time too. The last 10 pieces I just dumped on the top of the stack to get a final single at 999 before time ran out. Hopefully this makes future games a bit easier and less nervous now that I know it's possible.


http://i15.tinypic.com/6gjvs09.jpg

[colour_thief]

Well done there Leffe! I know you've worked a long time for that... Believe it or not I remember you from the ZiNc forum. You should drop by #arika again sometime, we've got 3 other Swedes who show up with some regularity.

[Leffe]

Thank you colour, it warms! And man I remember you too. Great to see you again!


I put it to rest for almost half a year and thought my addiction was gone, but then one day I decided to give it a go and realized how I sucked compared to what I remembered. After a few sittings I was hooked again and back to how it used to be, and now even better. It's good to be back.

[LOst]

Thank you colour, it warms! And man I remember you too. Great to see you again!

I put it to rest for almost half a year and thought my addiction was gone, but then one day I decided to give it a go and realized how I sucked compared to what I remembered. After a few sittings I was hooked again and back to how it used to be, and now even better. It's good to be back.

Yea, I did that to to become Gm. It reduces the pressure.

However, I haven't been able to become Gm since that time (last summer).


My main goal was to become Gm is both noraml and 20g mode. And I did it. Then I lost the touch because I started to practice TGM2 master mode, and since TGM2 uses a better randomizer for stacking, I almost always lose the stack in TGM1 when I try to build.


However, I have gotten S9 in TGM2, and reached 999. However, not at the same time.

When I was Gm in TGM1, I could only get S1 in TGM2. So I have improved a lot.


It would be fin to actually beat my Gm time of 13'15 (same time in both Normal and 20g), but I can't seem to keep the stack, and by that I lose time.

[Rosti LFC]

YES!!! Gm rank at last!


Unfortunately, I accidentally lost the screen shot, so this will have to do:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/TGMrankGm.jpg

[Amnesia]

we've got 3 other Swedes who show up with some regularity.



http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif ??

LOst, znakeeye, and who is the third? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif BRAVO ROSTI!!!

WELL DONE ! And with a strong time for a first suceess.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Leffe]

L0st: I can understand you, TGM2 has a way more fair randomizer even if TGM usually is pretty good too. However I've been "starved" in TGM a few times and learnt to not build too daring as the risk involved is much higher than in TGM2. I've never made Gm in 20g but I've done 999, not fast enough. I do many mistakes before the game enters 20g mode, especially when "speeding up" pieces to fall faster, I hate it when you hear that click sound and you just created an ugly gap...


TGM2 also feels much more responsive and quick to react to your inputs which makes TGMs controls feel old and not very well "oiled". I've only made S6 in TGM2 though, which is way too little at level 950 something. The step to S1 seems much more far-fetched than the next S grades in TGM2. Sometimes I get a feeling that just a few more lines give you another S grade and they drop in quickly. I always get taken by surprise of the great speed increase at 900 compared to the earlier levels. In death I usually fail around just after 300 but I have a few 400+ under my belt.


I am going to focus on TGM1 now until I can get another Gm and feel comfortable that it wasn't just luck the first time around. I don't want to risk getting used to the smoother but faster TGM2 yet, although a few death modes in between helps keeping the speed up.

[Pineapple]

we've got 3 other Swedes who show up with some regularity.

LOst, znakeeye, and who is the third?

Lee N

[Amnesia]

Shot at 2007-07-13


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
Attend un peu le belge tu perds rien pour attendre... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif AAHHHhh mfm!!!

sorry my friend http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[mfm005]

It was about time... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Ex_Mosquito]

Slowly slowly getting there! I realise i need to speed up a bit but its such a damn stressfull game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/tgm_score.JPG

[Amnesia]

Shot at 2007-08-19


Ouff...Finally..

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif Just 3rd after the two crazy..

[colour_thief]

Well done! More people should play this again, if only to improve their record. Currently, I'm beating most of you with only one hand and that's just not right.

[LOst]

Well done! More people should play this again, if only to improve their record. Currently, I'm beating most of you with only one hand and that's just not right.

I have tried a few times. It isn't possible to perform faster than the emulator allows you to play without serious mistakes, that usually ends the game with a worse time. My computer seems to play both mame and zinc worse than for one year ago. But I play much better Heboris and UGM. I have no explaination for that.

Only Jagoris would allow a fair competition, according to me. Didn't you play the one hand on the real arcade? I am sure it helps alot. I tried to compete with your time once, and sure I could keep up during the levels 0-499 with maybe a minute after. But the 20g mode, I just lost time and time and time.

[cyberguile]

i wil play this game again when I manage to find a cheap copy of the pcb http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Amnesia, what emulator (or equivalent) are you using?


The font in your screen-shots look different to mine. I'm curious.

[K]

Amnesia, what emulator (or equivalent) are you using?

The font in your screen-shots look different to mine. I'm curious.

he probably use Zinc by seing the frame rate counter.

TGM1 use a 3D engine (as TGM3 btw), and Zinc have some option to smooth 3D texture rendering. But since the game originaly run in 320x240, and texture size adapted to it, near filtering give bad result.


This is an option you can disable. or maybe amnesia have randomly tweaked something http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[PetitPrince]

And the pieces seem sharper.

[tepples]

I seem to remember one of the PS1 emulators having a "2xSaI textures" or "Scale2x textures" option, which applies a filter to textures in much the same way that ZSNES and AdvanceMAME apply an upscaling filter to the whole screen.

[Poochy]

I did it! With 0.92 seconds to spare, too.


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/TGM1Record.png

Gm Rank, level 999 @ 13:29.08.

[Air Gear]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/qwAirGear/wahhhhh.jpg

...

[colour_thief]

Ouch, that's got to sting. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

And congratulations Poochy! Enjoy your day of infinite joy. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Poochy]

And congratulations Poochy! Enjoy your day of infinite joy. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifHeh, thanks. You have no idea how many people I bragged to out of excitement. Including many who have never even played TGM1. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

And Air Gear, I know the feeling. Shortly before my successful Gm attempt was one that failed because I was just a few seconds over. Not to mention my TAP Master record still stands at level 996. All I can say is, don't let it get you down or too frustrated, and keep on trying. With an attempt that close, you'll definitely get it soon. I wish you the best of luck.

[K]

congrats poochy !

...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/D_oh.jpghttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[PetitPrince]

Hopelà


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/tgm001.png
S7

763

11:33:75

[Air Gear]

Oh, and, congratulations on the GM, Poochy! I wasn't really paying attention to what anyone else was doing during that last post, sorry...

[colour_thief]

I like that you're playing Death mode, but also taking the time to learn Master. A balanced approach like that really speeds up progress.

[Amnesia]

Air gear S9
...



Don't worry my friend.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
One day, you will be able to do it almost everytime you want..

And you will know soon the same frustration in approching the M rank of TAP..

[K]

since 2 days TGM1 is plugged onto my arcade system. i've showed the game to a friend and i'm quite impressed how he learned fast the basic concept of the game... probably a futur addict http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
anyway, the ranking table remembered me that i have some record to break. i've recorded a 10:27:?? play.

quite entertaining to play back on the good old masterpiece http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Poochy]

Just out of boredom, I went and improved my time by 31.03 seconds:


[Edit: Picture removed.]


Gm Rank, level 999 @ 12:58.05

[Amnesia]

Just a test with one hand...Until ~400...

I finished with my two hands.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
But I am very worry...

I can bet on my life I respected all the conditions..

Grad 1 before 300

Grad S4 before 500

etc....


What happened ???? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
I know I played the whole game like a sheet...

Is there a condition of minimal number of tetris for the sections?

[DIGITAL]

You don't have enough points Amnesia. GM is 126,000. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

whoah !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
how do you know that ??

I though there was no minimal number of point needed for the Gm rank..


ok I have updated like that, I trust you :


TGM rules :

1 : Reach lv. 300 with the 1 rank
2 : Reach lv. 500 with the S4 rank
3 : Reach lv. 999 with the S9 rank
4 : Finish the game at lv. 999 with 126000 pts
5 : Reach lv. 999 under 13:30:00

[DIGITAL]

The wiki is a helpful place for information. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php?title=TGM (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php?title=TGM)

[tepples]

TGM rules :

1 : Reach lv. 300 with the 1 rank
2 : Reach lv. 500 with the S4 rank
3 : Reach lv. 999 with the S9 rank
4 : Finish the game at lv. 999 with 126000 pts
5 : Reach lv. 999 under 13:30:00


Doesn't 4 imply 3, given the rules for getting S9?

[DIGITAL]

S9 = 120,000 points.

[Rosti LFC]

Yeah, really getting S9 isn't a rule. S9 is just the grade that will be displayed. It's the 126,000 point margin that counts.

[Webby]

I played my first 10 games. Somehow i die because i the I blocks fall flat and won't rotate anymore everytime ...


My best so far:

http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-12.09.2007-22.29.jpg

[Pineapple]

Apparently, the trick is to hold down a rotate button before the I spawns, and then it won't appear flat. This works with other pieces as well, except O, of course.

[PetitPrince]

Ah, the I rotations.


The first set of rotation I learned by heart. Well, ok, that's only two states °^_^. Anyway, observe this:


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/irot.png

Unlike SRS or TGM3, you can't make an I stand up. So this move won't work:


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/iusage4.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/iusage5.gif

But if you leave enough space in the third column, then it's ok.


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/iusage6.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/iusage7.gif

Or you can use IRS. But that's not always an option.

[Webby]

I tried the holding the button initially with no luck so far. I need to improve my reaction i guess. And the stacking on the right side, but hey, you have to start somewhere. After another 5 games i finally got an S grade http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-12.09.2007-23.41.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

The Initial Rotation System can take a while to get used to. At first I had difficulty with it as well, but after a while you pick up the timing for it and it becomes natural.


If you use IRS successfully, you'll hear a "schwing" sound as the piece enters the field, as well as the usual entry sound.

[LOst]

I tried the holding the button initially with no luck so far. I need to improve my reaction i guess. And the stacking on the right side, but hey, you have to start somewhere. After another 5 games i finally got an S grade http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-12.09.2007-23.41.jpg

Congratulations to your first S grade http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
I remember when I got my first S grade. I also had problems with IRS and level 300+ then.


I am going to help you a little. First download and watch this movie:

http://www.arikaonline.com/download/movie/tgm.mpg

You won't be able to play this fast, but you can become a Gm player eventually! It is possible.

Now look how this guy plays during the first sections (a section is 0-100 levels.... One new background). He builds up the stack high, and leaves the hole to the right hand side of the field. This is what you should do, but slower. If you build the hole to the left hand side, you are doomed when the red I piece arrives at higher speeds.

After enough training you should be able to hit the S3 grade around level 300-400 and by that entering the top hi-score http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

To worry about later: Watch the guy entering level 500, all the fonts such as the time and score turns gold. This is 20g mode. In 20g mode you build your stack like a pyramid, and by that, the initial move can be rotated into position in the best direction that can be found. Check some of the neet blue piece (J) wall kicks, and also the crazy orange piece (L) DAS moves.


It is easy to blame the keyboard for mistakes, but eventually you must be able to fix those mistakes no matter if they were keyboard errors or your own errors. (yet again if you are familiar to Tetris already, you can probably recover your stack)


Hopefully this helps. One you have gotten S3 (weeks to months of training for me, but you are probably familiar to Tetris which I wasn't), you can ask how to train 20g mode. Good luck!

[Webby]

Thanks L0st ... That video was nice to see. I also checked the how to play video in tgm that shows s3.


PP: If i am correct this is the minimum requirement then:


      LLLL
XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX

[LOst]

Thanks L0st ... That video was nice to see. I also checked the how to play video in tgm that shows s3.

PP: If i am correct this is the minimum requirement then:

      LLLL
XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX


Yep thet is the minimul requirement to rotate the red I piece. Usually you have already rotated the piece during I.R.S.


The how to play demonstration in TGM shows both a S3 class player, and then a GM class player.


Differences in TGM1 demonstrations.


Class S3:

1. Rotates using one button at times (this is mainly to show that rotation skills is needed to play 20G mode).

2. No manual locking. Waits for pieces to lock automatically.


Class GM:

1. Makes a BRAVO which is almost impossible (showing off some fireworks is always nice)

2. Manual locks pieces to save time (which is the key to reach 999 in time for GM).

[LOst]

Webby, to help you to reach S3, I have uploaded a video at youtube that will slowly get S3. Slow videos are easier to follow and to learn from. You don't need to be super fast to get S3. But you need some basic TGM skills, like how to rotate a piece to fit into the current state of the stack.


Oh and this is not a show off. I am not good, just doing the job:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnU0xCAs8dk

[Webby]

And a combo is done by clearing lines and again with the next block, etc.?

[LOst]

And a combo is done by clearing lines and again with the next block, etc.?

Yea, but must start a combo with a tetris (4 rows). That's why building the hole a little bigger than 1 column at the top, so that you can use megenta, cyan and orange pieces to continue the combo. But you also need to know when to stop, and start rebuilding again. Because if you clear too much of the stack, it may take additional time to rebuild before the next possible combo appears.


It is not complicated. It is random! one time it works, another time it fails. But overall, it should work to wait the same amount of intervals.


In that video I got one combo.The rest was more or less tetrises. That's the main goal. Don't wait for combos. Go for tetrises and a high stack. Combos will appear sooner than later by doing that.

[gila]

Yea, but must start a combo with a tetris (4 rows).

so combos can be started only with tetris?

[Pineapple]

so combos can be started only with tetris?

No, but they're less efficient in terms of points per time than normal playing is unless you start with a tetris.

[colour_thief]

Yea, but must start a combo with a tetris (4 rows).
so combos can be started only with tetris?


Lost is completely wrong about that. I swear I've corrected him in the past, but I guess old habits die hard. Line clears >1 start a combo, and even singles will keep a combo alive.

[tepples]

so combos can be started only with tetris?
No, but they're less efficient in terms of points per time than normal playing is unless you start with a tetris.

Even if you combo-whore like the player in that 7-minute Ti MasterM video (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11316#11316) does?

[Webby]

Yea, but must start a combo with a tetris (4 rows).
so combos can be started only with tetris?

Lost is completely wrong about that. I swear I've corrected him in the past, but I guess old habits die hard. Line clears >1 start a combo, and even singles will keep a combo alive.


I played after making that statement and did noticed that there's only a cheering noise when you start your combo with a tetris ...

[Webby]

And a combo is done by clearing lines and again with the next block, etc.?
Yea, but must start a combo with a tetris (4 rows). That's why building the hole a little bigger than 1 column at the top, so that you can use megenta, cyan and orange pieces to continue the combo. But you also need to know when to stop, and start rebuilding again. Because if you clear too much of the stack, it may take additional time to rebuild before the next possible combo appears.

It is not complicated. It is random! one time it works, another time it fails. But overall, it should work to wait the same amount of intervals.

In that video I got one combo.The rest was more or less tetrises. That's the main goal. Don't wait for combos. Go for tetrises and a high stack. Combos will appear sooner than later by doing that.


I brought the subject up because of the description of your video on youtube: "...Just build and build, and take as many combos as possible before level 300...."

[Pineapple]

so combos can be started only with tetris?
No, but they're less efficient in terms of points per time than normal playing is unless you start with a tetris.
Even if you combo-whore like the player in that 7-minute Ti MasterM video (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11316#11316) does?

You call that combo-whoring? I can think of at least one much more extreme example, which sadly isn't on YouTube...

[DIGITAL]

so combos can be started only with tetris?
No, but they're less efficient in terms of points per time than normal playing is unless you start with a tetris.
Even if you combo-whore like the player in that 7-minute Ti MasterM video (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11316#11316) does?
You call that combo-whoring? I can think of at least one much more extreme example, which sadly isn't on YouTube...


You mean that Ti-Easy game played my MOM?

[Pineapple]

He's on YouTube now, as well. (http://www.youtube.com/user/MOMMMMO2) His H1642 vid isn't, however...

[Webby]

Ive been playing a game or 10 today so far. The first was S1 and after that i started playing slow. Figuring out rotations and failing every time, rank 4 max. Then somehow i figured it out, some switch in my head said yes and this was the result:


http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-13.09.2007-19.56.jpg

I'm feuled with adrenaline, thanks guys ...

[LOst]

Ive been playing a game or 10 today so far. The first was S1 and after that i started playing slow. Figuring out rotations and failing every time, rank 4 max. Then somehow i figured it out, some switch in my head said yes and this was the result:

http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-13.09.2007-19.56.jpg

I'm feuled with adrenaline, thanks guys ...

Yay! Good good!


You have passed the first step. The next step is the GM rank.


It is time for 20G mode training. The code for 20G mode is: Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down (that is 8 times), and C, B, A.

This is done at the title screen. 20G mode will appear in red text. Rotations and pyramid stack building is required to survive. Begin without using manual lock. Good luck, and report your progress. I.R.S. means everything!

[Rosti LFC]

I found that a decent way to train for TGM (and how I think I got my Gm) is to move up to TA Death, or the equivalent on Heboris/whatever, so that you can continue to make large improvements due to the higher difficulty.

Then you can go back to TGM1 and it'll be a lot easier.


Still, you should wait until you're around S5/S6 as your highest before you do that.

[Webby]

Currently my biggest problem is what to do with block i can't place. I try to do someting strategically with them. But when i think there can be a block flipped in the gap i made i don't know how to flip it in and then i'm to late creating an even worse gap. I get S1 and S2 almost every game now, though that S3 was a 1 timer so far ...


I need some rest now.

[PetitPrince]

A good feeling of what is possible or not will come as you play. It can take some time though, especially if you come from a SRS "button mashing to place the piece" environment.


One general indication I can give you is to remember that the best place to put a tetramino is the one that leave you with the maximum number of possibilities. If you must overhang, consider a place where a lot of tetramino can be used to fill the hole. Example:


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex1.png

Where should I put the Z piece ?


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex5.gif
That one should be avoided, because there is only one piece that can properly fit. You can still wait for it by placing the others into the left bowl (or by making a Tetris).


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex2.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex3.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex6.gif
That's pyramiding. Notice that you should avoid using a J on the left image (because of the need of another J), and that I don't like the O+L solution in the middle one at all.


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/overhangex4.gif
I'm ambivalent on this one. Filling the gap with a J (blue) is possible, but you'll need another one (or a I) to fill the subsequent hole, and it's bad. And it's very easy, especially in high speed, to make a bridge over the hole .

Still, I like building thing that are mostly flat. And it is easier to DAS to the left than tapping to the left or right once or twice.



Another piece of advice I can give you to familiarize yourself with ARS is to play Heboris/Lockjaw in 20G with an infinite lock delay. That way you can calmly build your stuff, try some wallkick, et cetera.

[Webby]

The example you give would've been done by me like this. Somehow i automatically place s or z pieces like that without reason.


       Z
    XXZZ
    XXZ 
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX

Or

Z       
ZZ  XX   
Z   XX   
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX

Since my 3 days tgm i expanded that to this possibility:

         Z
    XX  ZZ
    XX  Z
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX

But now i see there are indeed more possibility's. I'll fire up a few games of lockjaw today.

[Taratang]

PetitPrince, I would actually be happiest with the first solution because you can happily stack on top of it while you wait for the L.


Of the middle three, the first is poor when using J or T, because you would ideally need another right away to stack properly. The second and third are both awfully slow moves which are prone to error due to excessive tapping.


The last solution is the one I would most likely use sub-20G (In 20G I would place it far left without rotation), but fixing it with the J is not a good idea. J in this particular field should be placed face up one from the right.


The example you give would've been done by me like this. Somehow i automatically place s or z pieces like that without reason.

|       Z  |
|    XXZZ  |
|    XXZ   |
|XXXXXXXXX |
|XXXXXXXXX |
|XXXXXXXXX |
|XXXXXXXXX |
This is perfectly fine too. Just be aware that you need to rotate a subsequent I 3 times (once during ARE) to get it past the nubbin on the right (in 20G at least).
         Z
    XX  ZZ
    XX  Z
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX

But now i see there are indeed more possibility's. I'll fire up a few games of lockjaw today.

Don't do this.


I assume you're looking for an elegant tetris only solution with this one but it's not a great idea in a game without a hold box.

[colour_thief]

I generally agree with Taratang here. Making a tuck spot for the L or J on the right is the best thing to do. Firtly, you only lose 1 column of build space so the risk of further holes/overhangs is reduced. Secondly, even if you mess up, you have created a hole on the side of the screen, near your tetris hole. It is very very easy to fix such a hole, even at high speed 20G.

[DIGITAL]

       
Z
ZZ  XX
Z   XX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX


I like this solution very much for low G. It's a very flexible structure.

In 20G, this placement would often work; but I tend to opt for these next placements to minimize risks, especially when there is only 1 preview and the expectation for a T/L or a JI is low. Note: this is not good for score.

    XXZZ      ZZ  XX   
    XX ZZ      ZZ XX
XXXXXXXXX     XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX     XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX     XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX     XXXXXXXXX

[Webby]

yay i improved my S3 rank with almost a minute: http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-14.09.2007-19.06.jpg

[PetitPrince]

I'm near it, I'm near it, I'M F**** NEAR IT !


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/tgm002.png
S8

968

14:48:73


I changed my mind contrarily to my last record: I'm more focused at surviving rather than scoring. It seems it worked http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif . But a stupid error killed me before the end http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif .

[LOst]

yay i improved my S3 rank with almost a minute: http://www.pagedown.nl/files/TGM1-14.09.2007-19.06.jpg

Great. Improvements are always good. I still would wish you to get S3 a little bit earlier than around level 400. Try to get it around level 350, and you might get close to S4. S4 might seem far away, but if your stack is clean from errors at the time you hit S3, there might be easier than you think to hit S4.

[Webby]

My stack is clean when i hit S1 and sometimes i am able to hit S1 before the 200. Then i can keep up till i make more then 1 mistakes. My concentration is gone and a just try to clear as long as possible. I tried recording a game where i got to S3, but the program crashed ... i did got 12 seconds or so off my S3 time though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[LOst]

My stack is clean when i hit S1 and sometimes i am able to hit S1 before the 200. Then i can keep up till i make more then 1 mistakes. My concentration is gone and a just try to clear as long as possible. I tried recording a game where i got to S3, but the program crashed ... i did got 12 seconds or so off my S3 time though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

When I was in your situation, it was even worse. once I made a mistake, I couldn't repair it. The only solution was to start over. I had no original tetris experience. And I still don't! I have learned from TGM only.

[Webby]

You have passed the first step. The next step is the GM rank.

It is time for 20G mode training. The code for 20G mode is: Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down (that is 8 times), and C, B, A.
This is done at the title screen. 20G mode will appear in red text. Rotations and pyramid stack building is required to survive. Begin without using manual lock. Good luck, and report your progress. I.R.S. means everything!


I've been playing 20G for 2 evenings straight now. My girlfriend got insane by the bleeps while watching her favorite tv shows http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

But there is progress. Evening one i cleared max 2 lines and thought i would never do it. Yesterday i started building a stack and clearing a tetris or 2. I even got rank 5 once http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[LOst]

You have passed the first step. The next step is the GM rank.

It is time for 20G mode training. The code for 20G mode is: Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down (that is 8 times), and C, B, A.
This is done at the title screen. 20G mode will appear in red text. Rotations and pyramid stack building is required to survive. Begin without using manual lock. Good luck, and report your progress. I.R.S. means everything!

I've been playing 20G for 2 evenings straight now. My girlfriend got insane by the bleeps while watching her favorite tv shows http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

But there is progress. Evening one i cleared max 2 lines and thought i would never do it. Yesterday i started building a stack and clearing a tetris or 2. I even got rank 5 once http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Perfect progress!

[Amnesia]

Dawn it's hard with one hand!

I think I have some work to do to become a one-hand Gm!

[Amnesia]

[/url]

[url=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=gm11min04kz2.jpg] (http://imageshack.us/default.htm)


I am very close to the sub-11..

[Webby]

You have passed the first step. The next step is the GM rank.

It is time for 20G mode training. The code for 20G mode is: Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down (that is 8 times), and C, B, A.
This is done at the title screen. 20G mode will appear in red text. Rotations and pyramid stack building is required to survive. Begin without using manual lock. Good luck, and report your progress. I.R.S. means everything!

I've been playing 20G for 2 evenings straight now. My girlfriend got insane by the bleeps while watching her favorite tv shows http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

But there is progress. Evening one i cleared max 2 lines and thought i would never do it. Yesterday i started building a stack and clearing a tetris or 2. I even got rank 5 once http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
Perfect progress!


Not so much progress now. I've been playing T.A.Death to practice for almost 10 hours now. My current record is 136 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[LOst]

You have passed the first step. The next step is the GM rank.

It is time for 20G mode training. The code for 20G mode is: Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Down (that is 8 times), and C, B, A.
This is done at the title screen. 20G mode will appear in red text. Rotations and pyramid stack building is required to survive. Begin without using manual lock. Good luck, and report your progress. I.R.S. means everything!

I've been playing 20G for 2 evenings straight now. My girlfriend got insane by the bleeps while watching her favorite tv shows http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

But there is progress. Evening one i cleared max 2 lines and thought i would never do it. Yesterday i started building a stack and clearing a tetris or 2. I even got rank 5 once http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
Perfect progress!

Not so much progress now. I've been playing T.A.Death to practice for almost 10 hours now. My current record is 136 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I don't call that training. If you want to play fast in the future, you need to play slow for now. Go back to 20g mode training in TGM1. Try to beat your best reached grade. Learn to rotate correctly to survive longer.


And for the Death Mode argument posted earlier... Death Mode != Survive Mode.


EDIT: Just to make you see from my point of view: I have reached level 300 twice in Death Mode since the year 2005. And I am a Gm TGM1 ranked player. Even if you may rach level 300 in Death, it is not going to make you become a Gm player in TGM1. You are still a S3 ranked TGM1 player, and you really should do something about that. (And yea I have played 100-120 Death Mode games in my life. And the reason I haven't played more is because it is dull, and way too fast btw)

[Webby]

I assumed tadeath was the same as 20g in tgm1? i got bored pressing the down, down, etc. sequence every time ... but i guess it is not. Isn't there a cheat to activate in tgm1 so i can have 20g on all the time?

[colour_thief]

At the title screen press Down (8 times) C, B, A, and then start.

[gila]

Isn't there a cheat to activate in tgm1 so i can have 20G on all the time?


the cheat is: DDDD DDDD C B A (D=down, C=button3, B=button2, A=button1). enter it at the title screen in TGM, then if you do it correctly, the bottom right corner will display "20G MODE" in red letters. press start and there you go.


actually T.A.DEATH is harder than TGM's 20G MODE because in TAP, the lock delay and line clear delay are getting faster and faster while in TGM they stay the same.


so the advice to play TGM's 20G MODE first is right on the money.

[Rosti LFC]

TA Death is way harder than TGM on 20G. Not long ago I went back and played TGM in 20G mode, and compared to Death is is really slow.

[Amnesia]

Master Mode Class S9 (in trainer)



I have watched that..

I recognize your "proper" and "clean" style..

Your game is realy stable and regular, better than mine..

Your last bad point is still the speed..


That would be very fine if we could amalgamate together..We would be much better than jago and c_t.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif *amalgamate..I am not sure it is the good word..That comes from "google traduction"

[colour_thief]

Amalgamate has the correct meaning, but "merge together" sounds more natural.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif Mmmrrrhh...

I prefer tell you that before c_t, if I do a sub-11, I will put my name above yours.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[colour_thief]

By all means, I'd insist that you do so. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

EDIT:

Or I stoped being lazy and looked my proper record up... It's 10:54:05. I found Jago's too as a bonus.

[Amnesia]

8 secondes ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

too many.. I will stay with this 11:02..

DEFINITELY --> MASTER M RANK NOW..

[mat]

i've gotta break this game out... no idea what i would be at now.

[Amnesia]

I would enjoy to see.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[mat]

10:58:06

starting this game is soooo annoying. good fun though. i built REALLY well during this game, so that was cool.

[Amnesia]

Whoahh!!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
Ca va pas se passer comme ca matt.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

But it is a pleasure to see your score on the list! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
It is more realistic now..

I would like to put kotetsu as well http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Poochy]

Another improvement, although this one's relatively minor:


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/TGM1BestTime.png

Gm Rank, level 999 @ 12:48.41

[Amnesia]

NEW RECORD OF BOU : S5 - 719 @ 09:06:75

Sorry! you keep thye same place.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

And I stupidly failed a Gm ~10:45.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[Amnesia]

Bou finally reaches S6 lv. 750.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
He is now as strong I was when I discovered the TGM serie..

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif He is my best padawan..

[Ex_Mosquito]

Hi. I am still try to get GM on tgm. For the past few months ive been concentrating on 20G mode. Ive made a small vid from level 500-999 using texmaster. Any suggestions with ways i could improve my 20g game or where im going wrong will be greatly appreciated. Ive watched it back a few times and i realise i missed some pretty obvious better placements i could have made. But generally, how am i doing?


*I made a few dodgy inputs within the first minute and misplaced a few pieces, mostly due to playing texmaster in a window while recording with hypercam at the same time which lagged the controls somewhat, and im used to playing on a stick. Any excuess.... thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA51yZIp23E

[Rosti LFC]

Mosquito, Death is probably better training for 20G than the actual 20G mode on TGM, because it's faster.


The kouza site (http://www13.plala.or.jp/TETRiS_TGM/kouza/index.htm) should be good enough to learn the extra things that help 20G play. Sure, it's in Japanese, but you can get enough from the pictures.


Really though, I think it's just experience and practice and eventually you'll get the Gm run. I was stuck around the S5~S7 mark for absolutely ages.

[LOst]

What am I doing wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzE_7ZytsU0


I haven't reached Gm in over a year now. My current best in 20g mode: S3, and in 20g mode mono: S9 during the same day (hour).


Feel free to analyze and complain? I love TGM1, and still hate it so much when I lose http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[DIGITAL]

What am I doing wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzE_7ZytsU0

I haven't reached Gm in over a year now. My current best in 20G mode: S3, and in 20G mode mono: S9 during the same day (hour).

Feel free to analyze and complain? I love TGM1, and still hate it so much when I lose http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif


The thing that jumps out at me is that you're double/triple tapping too much.

[Rosti LFC]

LOst, why are you playing with the colours off. Surely that itself is a handicap?

[tepples]

LOst, why are you playing with the colours off.

Is that an artifact of emulation? I know a lot of N64 emulators don't show block colors in The New Tetris.

[Rosti LFC]

LOst, why are you playing with the colours off.
Is that an artifact of emulation? I know a lot of N64 emulators don't show block colors in The New Tetris.

Well I know for a fact that Mame and ZiNc are capable of displaying colours.

[Poochy]

It's probably just the Mono Mode code (RRRUCBA at the title screen).

[colour_thief]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA51yZIp23E


First, you are very strong in general, relative to your goal. Just watching that I thought you should be able to get Gm. You have a pretty good feel of what is and isn't possible. There's a few advanced placements you didn't see... But looking at your game I can tell that one or 2 techniques isn't what is preventing your Gm.


You need practice digging through garbage. You're pretty good at stacking cleanly, and minimizing the damage when holes must be made. But mistakes tend to last way longer than they should. Around level 600 you made a hole in column 3, a fairly easy column to open up holes in, and it stayed with you the whole game. Beyond that one particular hole, in general too many of your placement choices were ignorant of the holes. I could give specific examples from your video if you need them. But in general, you want to avoid stacking on top of the hole when it is near the surface, assuming your screen is stable of course.

[colour_thief]

What am I doing wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzE_7ZytsU0

I haven't reached Gm in over a year now. My current best in 20G mode: S3, and in 20G mode mono: S9 during the same day (hour).

Feel free to analyze and complain? I love TGM1, and still hate it so much when I lose http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif


Lost your problem is dead simple. Just lock more aggressively. You clearly show that you know all you need to survive, and cleanly at that. You're just playing your moves at a leisurely pace. Push yourself a hair faster and you'll get it no problem... Even if you make a few more mistakes I'm sure you can deal with them. Remember, most of the time attack comes from reducing the active time of the pieces, not from reducing the number of line clear animations.

[Amnesia]

First sub-11 for me with 10:59:96..

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif RRRhhhaa !!!!!!

There is "something" which prevents me to beat you guys..

[PetitPrince]

That shitty Mame++ (with Peops plugin) (but I feel that's a tad faster/fluider than Zinc) wasn't able to snapshot that instant, but still:


I HAVE FINALLY BEATEN THAT BLOODY GAME !


S9

999

15:57:80


Now, I need to be

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Hbfs_single.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

Concentrate on the faster especially. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

How many time you do currently at 100 and 500 ?

I think a good target is : 1:35 and 7:00

I am testing, like jago with the Death m rank if there is a limit time before 500 to avoid every manual lock after 500..But I predicte that will give a monstrous time-attack for 0-500.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif Maybe it is impossible.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Colour_thief !!!!

I DID IT AS WELL!!!!!!!!!

[cdsboy]

Kinda slow... But small improvement...


http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1410/s6we8.png

[cyberguile]

if you can do it one handed, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do it on a keyboard http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[PetitPrince]

How many time you do currently at 100 and 500 ?
I think a good target is : 1:35 and 7:00


W00t !


I'm at 1:29 and around 7:00 (with a terrible playfield).

[Rosti LFC]

Not hugely fast, but a marked improvement. I was only doing it as a test to see if I could just pull off a Gm with one go, and I could. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/TGMhigh-1.jpg

[colour_thief]

It really feels good when you've mastered the game enough to pull it off every time if you want to. Of course, usually you'll try to play your fastest and therefore die somewhat often. But knowing that you can leisurely get Gm on demand brings quite the sense of satisfaction.


Not to mention doing it on demand, one-handed. Also, lol I just noticed Amnesia added my one handed performance to the ranking. 9th place w00t! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Rosti LFC]

It really feels good when you've mastered the game enough to pull it off every time if you want to.


And then it doesn't feel good when you realise that someone else can do it better with one hand behind their back.

[Pineapple]

9--colour_thief 1/2-------Gm - 999 @ 12:06:--

I think you mean 12:04.28

[Amnesia]

Are you sure ?

Ok..I can't see any video where I am..



It really feels good when you've mastered the game enough to pull it off every time if you want to.


Do you think it is possible to reached one day the same feeling for the death m rank ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

Is it possible to add our double one-handed performance? We have already 3 records with that :


Amnesia 1/2 - Amnesia 1/2

colour_thief 1/2 - colour_thief 1/2

Kotetsu 1/2 - Kotetsu 1/2

[colour_thief]

It really feels good when you've mastered the game enough to pull it off every time if you want to.

Do you think it is possible to reached one day the same feeling for the death m rank ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

Is it possible to add our double one-handed performance? We have already 3 records with that :

Amnesia 1/2 - Amnesia 1/2
colour_thief 1/2 - colour_thief 1/2
Kotetsu 1/2 - Kotetsu 1/2


I think it will definitely happen with Death M. Already, I think at least jago and I could hit 500 extremely often if we weren't playing for speed.


And I guess I'll add the Double Play records, but I think they should go in their own table. Same thread, just a different table.

[Amnesia]

I think it will definitely happen with Death M. Already, I think at least jago and I could hit 500 extremely often if we weren't playing for speed.



I hope you are right c_t.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif
To survive at 400 is still a problem for me..

I can even play in locking at 400, I play normaly, perfectely in thinking "I am invisible I manage the speed", and SUDDENLY, PATATRA!!! 3 tetriminos fall in a row without any reaction from me and I don't understand what happens http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif ..I lose often around 480 always with a good time..I will edit an article to explain this phenomen and by the way, explain the dangers of the manual locking..

It is what I call the "brain lag"..

I am sure to be the only one who have this problem..I begin to think seriously the Master M rank will soon be easier for me than the Death M rank.

[K]

I think it will definitely happen with Death M. Already, I think at least jago and I could hit 500 extremely often if we weren't playing for speed.

Exactly. I don't run anymore for "speed" in death mode, it's been a long time i didn't broke 40sec first section. I just concentrate on Kan's advise about performing more tetris : it help more on the overall skill and stability. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[colour_thief]

I begin to think seriously the Master M rank will soon be easier for me than the Death M rank.


I know this comment wasn't serious, but I'm pretty sure Ti Master gets faster than Death 400.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

You will see soon if I am serious c_t..

[colour_thief]

Err, oops, I read Master M as MasterM. A subtle but important difference.

[Rosti LFC]

Err, oops, I read Master M as MasterM. A subtle but important difference.

You also posted that twice http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

Did not! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Taratang]

Took a big bite out of my time - it feels so easy to stack for tetrises now compared to when first got GM.


Screenshot at the end came out weird for some reason (I was still at name entry but it's invisible??) so I went back and took one of the high score list.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/1200.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/GMtimes.jpg

edit: I am now quicker than a one-handed CT, hooray!

[Rosti LFC]

Damn Tara. I was hoping to overtake you. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[Taratang]

Damn Tara. I was hoping to overtake you. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

That gives me an idea. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Next time I improve I'm going to hold back the screenshots until you pass my old record, then BLAMMO, insta-beaten.

[cyberguile]

I'm definitely back on the road with a big improvement of my tgm record:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/tgmcyberguileGM.jpg

Still far from the top players but eh, 30 seconds faster than my previous record http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Leffe]

Here's my first one under 13 minutes, what a rush!

Next time I will remember to play through the credit roll too. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
Unless I get very close, I will not post anything before I make it under 12:30:00. Wish me luck http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://i20.tinypic.com/25asqrn.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

Here's my first one under 13 minutes, what a rush!
I will not post anything before I make it under 12:30:00. Wish me luck http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif


I would, but that'd put you above me http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Ex_Mosquito]

Finally completed it! Shitty times though.

I have been struggling to complete it on the pcb, but i was over my gf's house with my laptop and i managed to get it twice. Strange.


I did it once in 20G mode, using the code.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/TGM_High.JPG

I then managed to do it again in normal mode getting s9 in 14:35. Unfortunalty the screen grab didnt work properly (damn flashing) and i exit the emulator before it had chance to save http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/Doh.JPG

[colour_thief]

That's really awesome Ex_Mosquito! It sounds like you've had a breakthrough.

[Amnesia]

BOU reveille toi merde!

arrache moi ce Gm !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

[kapat]

GM, GM, GM, GM, and then ....



http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee208/randlebar/TGM1.jpg


big improvement for me., ever since i got heboris and stuff i've been spoiled with the rot system of how lines can hope over almost anything to get into the emtpy row i got going wherever.


first time i ever seen level 5 too!

[Rosti LFC]

big improvement for me., ever since i got heboris and stuff i've been spoiled with the rot system of how lines can hope over almost anything to get into the emtpy row i got going wherever.


I had the exact same problem making the switch from a good TDS player to a good TGM player. I could easily cope with the speed, and showed it with my Lockjaw times (which I'm now somehow unable to even get close to), but the rotation would screw me up every time.

You'll get to a point where it starts to click, and from then onwards you'll start smashing your records and making rapid improvements for a bit.

[Amnesia]

Your mastering time and level, show you are a very good stacker..You had got the S5 rank very early.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
NICE !

[DIGITAL]

big improvement for me., ever since i got heboris and stuff i've been spoiled with the rot system of how lines can hope over almost anything to get into the emtpy row i got going wherever.

first time i ever seen level 5 too!


Great leap! You can minimize the "tetlag" as we call it by playing with the same rotation system, called "HEBORIS" in heboris.

[EIHoppe]

Decided to play a few (okay, more like 20) rounds of TGM to get a decent score on the board after playing some Heboris tonight. Figured I might as well get a score up so I don't look like a TOTAL lurker, so I fired up XMAME on the tower and...well...got something, at least.


What I will say is this: ARS messes with my head. Between Heboris and Tetris DS, I just can't seem to get the mindset switched.


(Also, I'd like to note some interesting oddities: I can do decently on Heboris with TGM settings (Heboris rots, obviously) on 20G (survived to ~600 there), and can do somewhat okay on TGM 20G (survived to ~300 there), but for the life of me I can't figure out how to survive the 300-399 range very well, The somewhat hi gravity always seems to mess me up--but if I survive to 400 I'll usually do fine and recover a bit.)


Another couple things that have been frustrating me:

How SLOOOOW sub20G TGM play is. I really miss sonic drop from Heboris. (on that note, I really hate slipping things under gaps on TGM as well, as you either have to hold down pretty much frame-perfect, or wait about three minutes for it to get to where you can slide it in.)

The lack of I-kicks--it's not as bad when your stack is clean and you're going to the right, but I can NEVER get it to cooperate going to the left short praying my stack will let it slide all the way over after IRSing it. If there's anything that's been killing me, it's not being able to clean up on the left side because of that.


Either way, at least I'm on the board. Expect improvements at some point or another, such as when I'm not fatigued from trying to get SOMETHING to work.


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5826/tgmeis4cutyy2.png
(S4, 46577 points, Level 541, Mastering Time: 6:32:96, Death Time: 7:46:51 for those who have difficulties seeing the image)


~EI

[Rosti LFC]

can do somewhat okay on TGM 20G (survived to ~300 there), but for the life of me I can't figure out how to survive the 300-399 range very well, The somewhat hi gravity always seems to mess me up--but if I survive to 400 I'll usually do fine and recover a bit.)

How SLOOOOW sub20G TGM play is. I really miss sonic drop from Heboris. (on that note, I really hate slipping things under gaps on TGM as well, as you either have to hold down pretty much frame-perfect, or wait about three minutes for it to get to where you can slide it in.)
~EI


Both of these problems can be solved to some extent by keeping your stack as high as possible until you get to around 450~500, where you start to clear it down.

It means you don't have to wait as long when it's really low gravity, and can place the pieces quicker, but it also creates 20G artificially when you get to the 300 mark.

[Ex_Mosquito]

My first 999 on the pcb. .25 seconds away! i realise i wouldnt have gotten Gm becasue my score was too low, but im getting there slowly.


In the rush of xcitement i couldnt get the right settings on my phone to take a pick quick enough so it looks a little blurry


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/TGMhigh1.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/TGMhigh2.JPG

My goal is to get Gm before christmas. This game is sooo stressful http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif fun though.

[cyberguile]

He he, you only need to save 4 seconds and Gm will be there.

Just try to play cleaner until 500 to start 20G with a nice and clean stack which will help you doing more tetrises and triples, saving the few seconds you need.

[Rosti LFC]

Yeah, Mosquito it's 4 seconds, not 0.25. The time that matters is the time you reach level 999 at, not the time you master the S9 grade.


You're still extremely close though.

[Amnesia]

Gm --> 10:59:38

Improved by 0,58 sec .. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

New one handed performance, much faster than my first one..


Gm --> 12:22:--


I did all what I am able with this one..I can't do better..

I reached 999 with only 2 squares on the matrix.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

Currently we are 3 one handed players on TC..I will create a little leaderboard with the best score at : TGM, TAP Master and DEATH, and DOUBLE..


I also completed my first Master mode at S7 ~10:50


So ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif I am now a bit stronger with one hand, than kan with his 2 hands in 2004.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[cyberguile]

Kitaru: you're on the way ! Play at the same speed but try and do a couple more tetrises: you will increase your score (thus your rank) AND your final time.

[Amnesia]

Ho it is funny ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

we are at the same position on the table..


  8--etherstorm-------------Gm - 999 @ 11:50:16
   9--Taratang---------------Gm - 999 @ 12:00:95
  10--colour_thief 1/2-------Gm - 999 @ 12:04:28
  11--Amnesia 1/2------------Gm - 999 @ 12:22:-- - 11/11/07
  12--Ken_P------------------Gm - 999 @ 12:35:31
  13--Rosti LFC--------------Gm - 999 @ 12:47:51

[cyberguile]

eight seconds improvement ( http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif ):


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/tgmgm12min48.jpg

(but 27000 points less than my previous records, meaning I played WAY faster but did a lot of mistakes)

[Rosti LFC]

My young padawan, LordPie:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/LOLSOME.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

Unlucky Kitaru. Painfully close


You'll have Gm pretty soon.

[Amnesia]

My young padawan, LordPie:



I think we should organize a contest of Master/Padawan education..

We start with 1,2 or 3 padawans max, with a weak level,

we make him (them) grow up, and we compare 6 months or 1 year later..

To see the best Tetris teacher http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif ..

I am sure to be the best at this game.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Rosti LFC]

In two weeks I've seen an improvement from rank 3 to S3


I'd say it is far more a reflection of the student's skill, patience, motivation and eagerness to improve that would be shown in the improvement than the ability of the master to teach.

[Amnesia]

HO HO HO !!!??
ct and matt still above me ??

[colour_thief]

Why are you keeping your time secret? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[gila]

i almost finished the game.

still slow and a lot to learn.


http://gila.deathmask.net/tetris/tgm_071123.png

[Rosti LFC]

still slow and a lot to learn.


The most important thing is that you have the eagerness to learn, and the determination to improve.

If you want to get better, then given time you will.

[PetitPrince]

S9

999

14:18:51 (http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/tgm004.png)



I still have to gain 50 seconds.


Oh, and what is the difference between mastering time (14:06:02) and the time at the bottom (14:18:51) ?

[DIGITAL]

Mastering time is the time you achieved your current rank.

[colour_thief]

S9
999
14:18:51 (http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/tgm004.png)


I still have to gain 50 seconds.


Note that you are missing points too. You need at least 126 000 for Gm.

[cyberguile]

Tried one single game this evening after two weeks of intensive death mode "only tetrises" training.

Result ? 30 seconds improvement ^^


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/tgmgm12min16.jpg

[colour_thief]

Is that infinite happiness I see on your face? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[jujube]

congrats Kitaru http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Jujube, if you stopped flitting around with various games and modes and concentrated on TGM, I reckon you could get Gm pretty quickly.

[Amnesia]

For this reason I refuse to play at lockjaw.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

By the way..My current best is 40 lines --> 1:05..

On a DS..


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif It is so bad..

[Rosti LFC]

"LordPie" is on twice btw.

[cyberguile]

12 seconds improvement that... change nothing to my rank http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/tgmgm12min02.jpg

[Pineapple]

You move ahead of CT one handed, though. That's gotta be a good thing, right?

[cyberguile]

You move ahead of CT one handed, though. That's gotta be a good thing, right?


Yiiiipeeeee ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[jujube]

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8580/tgm1s8ff3.png
got to 999 in 14:xx. guess i need to improve my time and points and stuff.

[Rosti LFC]

You're not far away jujube.


Best way to improve time would probably be keeping the stack as high as possible from 0~300, to lose less time through the lack of a hard drop.

[Amnesia]

the lack of a hard drop

Ohh..I was searching the good english term for that... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

ADVICE :

For the 0 - 300 , try to play as high as you can, around 2/3 ot the stack, in order to save few second from the lack of hard dropping.
At the end, around 950 try to finish on the bottom of the matrix, it is more interesting to finish very low with single and double than trying to continue Tetrises after S9.

This is the optimal and minimal time I recommend for the whole game :
  0 - 100 ---> 85 sec --->  1:25
100 - 200 ---> 85 sec --->  2:50
200 - 300 ---> 85 sec --->  4:15
300 - 400 ---> 80 sec --->  5:35
400 - 500 ---> 80 sec --->  6:55
500 - 600 ---> 80 sec --->  8:15
600 - 700 ---> 80 sec --->  9:35
700 - 800 ---> 80 sec ---> 10:55
800 - 900 ---> 80 sec ---> 12:15
900 - 999 ---> 75 sec ---> 13:30

[DIGITAL]

You might want to replace hard drop with firm drop. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I think "beneficial" would fit better than "interesting"?

[Bou]

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[url=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=511&i=s8tgm1926nk5.png] (http://imageshack.us/default.htm)

[jujube]

You're not far away jujube.

Best way to improve time would probably be keeping the stack as high as possible from 0~300, to lose less time through the lack of a hard drop.

working on it. still not fast enough but i reached S8 a lot earlier.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4853/tgm1s8box5.png

[cyberguile]

Who is this:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=LzE_7ZytsU0

He plays very well but does to much "tap tap tap tap" and looses a lot of time.

[colour_thief]

  16--LOst-------------------Gm - 999 @ 13:15:40

[Rosti LFC]

Improvement for LordPie, my apprentice:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/s4newrecord.jpg

[K]

rolfrolf

apprentice ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

humm, probably my next place future status http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Amnesia]

Toutes proportions gardées bien sure.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[cyberguile]

I feel pretty cumfortable now on tgm1, managing to get Gm at almost every game and always finishing around 12min10.

First time I tried tgm1 20G mode today:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/20GmodeS8.jpg

Funny to see the time is so close to my usual normal mode ones. Makes you feel how well the game was programmed.