TDS tournament, anyone?

[deepdorp]

i'd like to get a friendly TDS tournament going. it would be a single-elimination format with first to win 5 games for the round of 16, and first to 10 games thereafter, with maybe an extra stipulation in the final of first to 10, win by 2. The seedings, which will determine the first round matches, would be based on the blockstats ratings of the players at a pre-specified time before the tournament starts. Blockstats chat could also be used to choreograph the games, while major announcements would be made here at TetrisConcept. Unless anyone has other ideas, there would be no prizes for now other than bragging rights among the tetris community. Please reply if interested. Unless there is an enormous or weak response, spots will be limited to the first 16 and i reserve one for myself, so 15 open. I would like to get this to happen sometime in the next 2 weeks.


http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/collections/deepdorp/16%20sing%20elim%20brack.JPG

[kotetsu213]

I'll join as long as the tournament doesn't turn out to be a disaster like the ones on GameFAQs.

[Caithness]

Sign me up! My Blockstats rating is stuck at 7315 and/or 7626 though, so that might be a problem.

[Sully]

I'm in for sure.

[cdsboy]

i'll do it.

[deepdorp]

one thing that would make the seeding easier to manage would be if everyone could include their blockstats badge in your signature, that way come tournament day, to fill out the bracket we just have to look at this thread.


i've noticed several signatures at these forums that aren't displaying. the syntax i'm using is:(i got this from the billmaan thread (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83_2Furl))

http://www.blockstats.org/memberimage/a7a12ae6219136cc13b4fd6289dda.gif

[cdsboy]

ok thats not such a bad idea, time to bring my rating back up so my sig doesn't shame me...

[tepples]

I can't consistently beat level 5 CPU, so I'm not sure if I'll make it even past the first round, but I'm in as TC-Pino just for the CENSORED of it. But if I come in last, do I get the booby prize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booby_prize)? (safe for work)

[colour_thief]

I'm in I guess... Hope my opponents keep the same hours.

[Benni]

i would like to play with you, too


Edit: My Wifi-Name is G37 Benni

[Bomber]

nice! finally a TDS tournament!

I would also like to play

[Tarto]

Wow! I'm definitely interested in this!!!

[Taratang]

I'd be interested in taking part, although I'm in the UK so time differences may be an issue against US/Canadian players that only play in the evening.


I haven't played on wifi for a few months, but my rating is around 7100 from memory.

[Millartime]

Count me in! Im not gonna miss another TDS tournament.

cosmonaut's in.

cosmonaut's in. (i figured we would need a #1 seed so i obliged)

[paul]

iam in too. name is cycle on tds.

[PetitPrince]

I'm also in.

[Sully]

Unless I miscounted, that's 14 so far.

[caffeine]

i'll play.

[deepdorp]

nice, that filled quickly. We have now 16 interested parties for the tournament. Anybody else who is still interested can put their name down as an alternate, in case people go missing or decide to not enter. More info to come as I iron out the details.......


deepdorp

kotetsu213

Caithness

Sully

cdsboy

tepples

colour_thief

Benni

Bomber

Tarto

Taratang

Millartime

cosmonautical

cycle

PetitPrince

nicholas

[jjdb210]

Hey Deep, continue to run your tournament as you have planned, but just so you know, I'm putting together a tournament engine for Tetribot so that reporting and such can happen easier.


I'd have you try it out with your bracket, but registration would becoming a nightmare (nor is it ready to go).

[Benni]

@deepdorp: When do you want to start the tournement?

[deepdorp]

okay, just so we are all on the same page--could each individual PM(so as not to clutter the thread) me your TetrisDS wifi name and your friend code. I have many, but i think some are outdated as people have changed names.


Also, if you give me your unique BlockStats rank image code (ex. a7a12ae6219136cc13b4fd6289dda.gif), i will compile a list showing all our ranks in 'realtime.' I can get a couple from the broken sigs, but a full list would be really nice and convenient.


thanks, deepdorp

[colour_thief]

Lurkers, don't become no-shows now!


Oh, and I request every set is first to 10 games. After all the effort to meet your opponent, I don't see why we don't play just a little bit more.

[Caithness]

I think the handicap needs to be specified in the tournament rules. I get very different results when both my opponent and myself are on level 2 than when we're both on level 4. I'm partial to handicap 3, but as long as it's consistent across all matches, I'll be happy.

[tepples]

Given that the handicap just specifies gravity rate, and it's a tradeoff between being able to shift pieces in mid-air and being able to slide them under overhangs, I'd go with each player chooses his or her own handicap before each game.

[M.Bison]

This is where I wish I had a DS.

My older brother is the only one I know who's owns a DS and a copy of TDS. (But he does'nt live with me)

Not to mention the nearest Wifi access point is over 70km from my house. (not to bad)


I will get a router and a DS sooner than later. (Maybe 2 weeks)

Oh well, next tournament count me in.


- Jono

[deepdorp]

colour_thief, i agree. first to 10 wins for each round it is. The final though i think should be win by 2 (maybe something extreme like a one game push tiebreaker in the event of 20-20 though?).


my original idea and still is to have handicap totally up to the player. Personally, I will probably always be using level 0 because I'm so used to it from wi-fi. I think forcing level handicaps creates more of a handicap than not using them at all, so i guess you could say i'm pro-choice with that issue.


okay, for the scheduling, it seems like although ideal, it could be impossible to all meet at once, so how does anybody feel about announcing the seedings on Friday, then play one round each on Sat, Sun, and semis and finals both on Mon? There would be nightly postings for that day's results so you would know who to schedule with for the next day. Is that too spread out? It seems like at least a couple days might be necessary. feedback?

[paul]

id say hc 2 should be the lowest setting just because the garbage is ridiculous easy otherwise.


tourny over in a couple days? idk...dont get your expectations up there. think about 2 weeks.

[colour_thief]

I agree that there should be a constant handicap accross the board. Also, I thought this affected how scrambled your garbage was. Is this wrong?


As for a timeframe... With timezones and day jobs, I think this tournament might last a little longer than you expect.

[Tarto]

I agree about the schedule. I'll do my best to be available but I need more leeway to organize my matches.


As for the handicap, I prefer being given the choice. I think each player should be able to play the way that is more natural to him.

[Billmaan]

I agree that there should be a constant handicap accross the board. Also, I thought this affected how scrambled your garbage was. Is this wrong?This is (well, seems to be) correct. At handicap 5, the garbage gaps are uniformly distributed.

[Taratang]

Will send a PM with my details when I get home from work later.


I don't think you could feasibly run a round every day as people will need time to arrange a mutually convenient time to play, especially where time differences are involved.


The Something Awful forums tournament I played a little while ago had a round each week with no shows being dropped at the end of each week and it worked quite well.


edit: PM sent

[Caithness]

Given that the handicap just specifies gravity rate, and it's a tradeoff between being able to shift pieces in mid-air and being able to slide them under overhangs, I'd go with each player chooses his or her own handicap before each game.


The gravity rate is not the only thing affected by the handicap. It also determines how "garbagey" your garbage is. This is crucial, as I seem to be faster than many others at clearing garbage at leven 4 and 5, but not as fast as them at making pure tetrises at level 1 and 2. I think everyone being set to handicap 3 is a good compromise in this area.

[Millartime]

The speed really gets quick fast on handicap 3 but the garbage is the closest to WiFi garbage. Handicap 2 is a little more reasonable speed wise, however the garbage is a little tetris friendly. its a toss up.

[Sully]

I think we need random garbage, even if it means faster drop speed. Clean garbage, in my opinion, makes for unbalanced games.


It might also be cool of we could somehow get the top 4 together for some 4-player action.

[tetrisdude]

ill play if someone cant. Then if not, i'll have to wait to the next tds tournament.

[deepdorp]

hmmm, the handicap issue seems pretty heated, but I still want to go with player choice. To address the issue of unbalanced garbage, I would say that in a win-10-game format, the balance will shift back and forth, and nobody would be helped/hurt significantly more than their opponent.

For those that want to compete on the same level as their opponent, just be in contact before-hand and mention that you will be matching whatever handicap is chosen, or work out a deal before-hand to both play at a specified level.


Based on other feedback, i guess i was a little ambitious with the timetable. I think one round per week is a little excessive also though, since it will really break the continuity of the event. How about we get the first round over this weekend, then the second round during next week and the semis and finals over next weekend? After the first round there will only be 8 people afterall, which becomes much more managable.

[tepples]

Time zones are a problem. What if whenever one contestant is not working or sleeping, his opponent is working or sleeping?

[Taratang]

I'm free pretty much all weekend so it shouldn't be a problem for me at least (in the UK). I don't know if there are other players with a bigger time difference.

[Tarto]

Same for me, except I'm in France.

[seamus]

Since there was no rulings on this i played with cdsboy on hc1. Im new so I dont understand the effects of different hc levels yet.


hc1 level is the one im choosing in my friendly's and its indeed very convient garbage most of the time. And by convient I mean that my I's seem to fit in perfectly almost all the time http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Taratang]

Is this still on or have people lost interest?

[Caithness]

We're all waiting for deepdorp to finish the seeding and announce the bracket.

[Phydeaux]

Throw me down as an alternate.

[colour_thief]

Hey deepdorp could we see some action on this? The list was filled in a day and it's been a week. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

BTW I second the week-long cutoff point for each round. I doubt we'll need the full week ever, but it sounds reasonable.

[tetrisdude]

Hey deepdorp could we see some action on this? The list was filled in a day and it's been a week. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

BTW I second the week-long cutoff point for each round. I doubt we'll need the full week ever, but it sounds reasonable.Agreed.. Eventhough im not in the tournament, i still would wanna see some action. Hey who knows maybe someone cant play and i could take thier place http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[tetrisdude]

ummm, whatever happened to this tournament?

[Sully]

Imagine if we could get organized enough to have cash entry fees- something like $1 to $5 per person to make it a little more interesting, perhaps given via paypal to a trusted source then awarded to the winner.

[deepdorp]

sorry, i got busy with life outside of tetris and sort of just let this go. it started to seem complicated, but i do still want to have some type of competitive play between us TC-forums 'elites'. i'm gonna make a poster for it and have some kind of free graphical 'prize' for the winner. i, personally am kind of graphically-challenged, but this was my thought. sorry again, but let's do get this tourney to happen.


later,

deepdorp

[tetrisdude]

im guessing this thing isnt happening?

[Sully]

Perhaps we should organize another one? I'll be glad to take over with the setup. Is there still interest?

[tetrisdude]

Perhaps we should organize another one? I'll be glad to take over with the setup. Is there still interest?that woud be awesome. if you are interested.....Could you let me know when the new signups are(if u are making an other tourny) http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I'd like to see a decent tourney. I wouldn't be interested in paying money though. Millar is too good for me. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[tetrisdude]

I'd like to see a decent tourney. I wouldn't be interested in paying money though. Millar is too good for me. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gifYea this tournament should be fun.